Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lionel Snell


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The result was   nomination withdrawn. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:18, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Lionel Snell

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Does not meet either general notability guideline or notability guideline for biographies, due to fundamental lack of significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Yworo (talk) 03:13, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 13:36, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Magic-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 13:38, 5 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. I always see this guy mentioned as one of the authorities on modern occultism, and his book SSOTBME cited as one of the must-reads. Do a Google Books search for his names Lionel Snell and Ramsey Dukes; a lot of mentions (and not just mere mentions) in different published sources establishes notability. (I'll make an effort to actually add some of those to the article as references.) — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 15:12, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Just remember, only independent third-party reliable sources can be used to establish notability. No quantity of unreliable sources do. Yworo (talk) 15:41, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, certainly a number of those sources look reliable. Get a couple of the best added to the article and I'll withdraw the nom. Do be careful though, quite a few of them appear to be self-published, but not all. (I sure wish Google would list the publisher in the search results, it would save a lot of time and clicks). Yworo (talk) 15:53, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, looking more closely, there seem to be at most two or three sources that might qualify as reliable. Can't tell if these are also the ones with significant biographical content, as Google thinks I've looked too many pages recently. Yworo (talk) 16:09, 6 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Withdraw nomination, the sources Jeraphine Gryphon has supplied support notability and I have found further sources which are even better. Yworo (talk) 00:25, 7 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. Snell's work is cited widely in the occult world. If the nomination has been withdrawn, can we now close the AfD?--Rodneyorpheus (talk) 15:21, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Just waiting for an admin to do so. Feel free to contact one to expedite. Yworo (talk) 15:53, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
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