Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lionel garner


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 12:07, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Lionel garner

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No independent references, and so does not establish biographical notability. Google search does not turn up in-depth independent coverage that could establish notability.

Not in a formal neutral encyclopedic style. That could be fixed if notability could be established. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:15, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 02:24, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 02:24, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Please do not delete this page. It is being created in honor of Lionel Garner with permission from Garner and his family by David Kokakis and myself (his executive assistant). David has been an avid collector of Garner's work for over a decade and was the first person to interview Garner for public information. As you will see if you follow the link included in the page, David has created a website for Garner. In order to establish a legacy for the painter we are trying to create an online presence for him. The interview has been transcribed in both French and English on the website, the biography was written by David Kokakis and reviewed by Garner and his family, and we are working on creating a documentary with the raw footage that was taken by David during the interview and trip to Paris. This page is a necessary step in contributing to a legacy for Garner that the public can access.User:Dkokakis (talk)
 * Comment - See Wikipedia is not a memorial site. The above doesn't address Wikipedia policies and guidelines.  Robert McClenon (talk) 17:23, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 05:04, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete: At most, the primary-sourced text in this biography describes someone going about their business. Wikipedia is not a place "to create an online presence" for a subject. I see no evidence of attained encyclopaedic notability. AllyD (talk) 08:05, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Very few Google hits and none of them newsworthy. As others have noted, this is an example of NOTOBITUARY as you've disclosed the fact that you are personally connected to the subject of the article, it might benefit you to have a look at Wikipedia's guidelines on avoiding conflicts of interest. Regards, ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 10:43, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Works sold for $500-2200 do not indicate a major painter. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:18, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I see what you mean, but price is not a reliable guide to notability. Consider a preparatory skecht by a notable artist sold for $5000 by their gallery, or an artist who never sold any work but appears in twenty books, or a conceptual artist whose work is ephemeral and non-saleable. 198.58.171.47 (talk) 07:08, 18 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete I could not find any independent reliable sources during a web and Google books search. There does seem to be a small commercial market for his work, but that does not make him notable if there is little critical notice.198.58.171.47 (talk) 07:05, 18 November 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.