Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lisa D'Amato (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus, defaulting to keep. Even after discounting the suspected sock/meatpuppets, there seems to be a roughly 50/50 split over whether the existing secondary coverage is sufficient enough to establish notability, with policy-based arguments being made on both sides. -- jonny - m t  04:02, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Lisa D'Amato
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Nominating articles individually (sorry for the mix-up). Please see previous AfD, this is an article that received no, or very few, votes to keep. Subject fails BIO1E, BIO Additional criteria, and Entertainers. She is an also-ran on a television game show, notable only in that context. The fact that a print model gets work as a print model is not notable. We have articles for the winner, runner-up and 3rd place contestants from ANTM. The others are not noteworthy, apart from their appearance on ANTM, and have yet to establish themselves as leaders in their chosen profession. Consequently, I am nominating all but the top 3 finishers from the ANTM cycles for deletion. In time they may prove notable enough for an article in the encyclopedia but until then they are quite well represented at all the various ANTM articles and the ANTM dedicated wiki. L0b0t (talk) 19:29, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Per my nomination. L0b0t (talk) 19:29, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions.   --  brew  crewer  (yada, yada) 22:37, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Getting media coverage (AOL, Perz Hilton), a few guest-stints, starting a music career... Siemgi 23:15 14 June 2008 (UTC).
 * Delete. Has not accomplished anything notable and has not received significant media coverage.-- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 06:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Granted, she's had her 15 minutes of fame and is soon to be forgotten; but she's spawned enough interest to warrant secondary sources, and who knows what importance she might play as part of some sociology geek's pop culture thesis years from now. Halifax Nomad (talk) 08:13, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete starting a career is not notable--when she establishes one,then it will be time for an article. anything, whether notable or not, might eventually become notable when used for academic study--then it gets an article. Wikipedia filters the internet, not reproduces it. DGG (talk) 22:46, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Perez Hilton is a site about celebrities, right? the fact that she was on it proves she's kinda notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.194.35.225 (talk) 12:11, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. She's got some notability outside ANTM, that's pretty much confirmed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.231.0.64 (talk) 23:31, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * — 87.231.0.64 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Weak delete: I know she's had coverage outside of the ANTM blogs/sites, but I don't think acting stupid in the public eye. It would be different if it was something so huge that it got significant mainstream coverage.  At this point, she does have some pop culture visibility, but not enough to warrant her inclusion into Wikipedia. SKS2K6 (talk) 02:15, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, same as Whitehead, her last AfD was a keep. User:Whadaheck (User talk:Whadaheck) 13:09 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * — Whadaheck (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Housekeeping note: Please see Suspected sock puppets/81.194.35.225 regarding edits by anonymous users and Whadaheck to recent AFD votes. Yechiel (Shalom) 03:54, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.