Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lisa Murtagh


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus.  Cbrown1023   talk   19:14, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Lisa Murtagh


Non notable winner of a beauty style pageant in Ireland. The competition is call The Rose of Tralee and is notable, the finals are shown on Irish television and regularly top the ratings. However, this women is not notable for anything other than winning this contest. If we allow articles for this, then every woman who wins Miss Ireland, Miss UK, Miss Bulgaria, Miss Uruguay, etc. needs an article and for every year of the competition too. I propose this article be deleted or redirected to the Rose of Tralee. Snappy56 (talk) 06:37, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. We have stub articles on squillions of one-minute-wonder footballers, but the Rose of Tralee (not a beauty pageant BTW) is selected to perform a public role for the next year. Murtagh is clearly notable, with lots of substantial coverage (e.g., ). Unlike footballers, there's only one Rose of Tralee a year, so if deluge-stopping you're onto, it's a worthy task but this is the wrong place to start. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:09, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - If she is notabale for winning the Rose of Tralee, is that enough? Some of the winners go onto to be famous in other areas, most disappear back into the obscurity from whence they came. Unless Murtagh becomes notable for something else, this article will always remains a stub, and will say little more than info already contained in the table in the Rose of Tralee article, e.g. Name, Year and Area represented. Also, looking at the other Roses that have articles, they soon degenerate into Hello magazine fluff pieces, "Lisa like cats and clothes shopping".
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions.   — Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:10, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 14:10, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 14:10, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep, seems notable enough to me. -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 14:29, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - passes WP:BLP and has reliable sources. Added content and citation as well. --Pmedema (talk) 17:49, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * So she has "beautiful hair", how does this help your argument? ;-) Snappy56 (talk) 08:12, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete This just seems like WP:BLP1E to me; her only notability stems from the Rose of Tralee. No prejudice to recreation if she achieves notability later, but it isn't here yet. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 19:31, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete until she does something else notable.Red Hurley (talk) 23:22, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete unless there is something notable than winning an award to be the centerpiece of a public relations event. DGG (talk) 01:03, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - notable enough for me --Bardcom (talk) 17:15, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and WP:BLP1E. Precedent is interesting though. There are several other articles on Roses, all of reach read like NN bios plucked from competition press packs. Only Aoibhinn Ní Shúilleabháin has any notability beyond the event. Unless you count some subjects participation in the (...ahem...) "Celebrity" Charity You're A Star. Guliolopez (talk) 23:35, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe they should all be merged into The Rose of Tralee? -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:03, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.