Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lisardo Guarinos


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. v/r - TP 15:12, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Lisardo Guarinos

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Article about an actor and singer that lacks sources. Couldn't find any reliable secondary or third-party sources, only questionable, potentially self-published sources appear in English language (I count imdb.com and amazon.com/mp3-download in this category, too). In the 8 blue-linked articles about telenovelas listed in the article he is mentioned in 4, but wikipedia cannot be a reference to itself. Per WP:NOTRELIABLE, WP:SELFPUBLISH and WP:INDEPENDENT. A PROD has been deleted by an anonymous IP without a summary. Ben Ben (talk) 17:42, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Have found sources in the Google News archive in Spanish language. Two of them in Google translation: . Not sure if this makes him notable as an actor or is it WP:NACTOR?--Ben Ben (talk) 18:15, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Hehe, using the German version of Google to translate Spanish into English. The internet is great. Bgwhite (talk) 07:09, 1 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  —Ben Ben (talk) 09:13, 26 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 1 August 2011 (UTC)




 * Weak Keep. The first article by Ben Ben does appear notable.  I see the exact same text in other places too.  Here is the official site of Alma de Hierro that lists him as a cast member. Here is the official site of Cuando me enamoro that lists him as a cast member.  At least I think they are the official sites.  I say "Weak Keep" because I'm not entirely sure that these are indeed notable sites because of my lack of Spanish skills. Bgwhite (talk) 07:09, 1 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. Other than the first link by Ben Ben, there are a couple of soap opera and gossip blogs with articles about him, and also this article, although the site doesn't seem reliable. I was actually expecting to find more than that since soap opera actors do normally receive a fair amount of coverage, but there isn't anything coming up from the major Mexican newspapers, and from Spain's I only get a few mentions of his name as part of the cast for plays he's participated in, so overall I think there isn't enough coverage to be considered significant. On a side note, both links by Bgwhite are indeed to the official sites, since esmas.com is the official internet portal of Televisa (the broadcaster), so they should be good for verification purposes - frankie (talk) 00:04, 2 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Mexico-related deletion discussions.  — Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 18:34, 3 August 2011 (UTC)


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 * Keep Verifiable career meets WP:ENT. Just as with many actors, he began with minor named characters in several notable notable productions.  These led to 4 episodes of Palabra de Mujer as Hernán Gil and 3 episodes of Alma de Hierro as Diego Galindo. Then his career blossomed with 123 episodes of Corazón salvaje as Federico Martín Del Campo, followed by 173 episodes of Cuando me enamoro as Agustín Dunant. These are not the beloved shows General Hospital or One Life to Live of Estados Unidos Norte, but notable in and to Mexico is just fine for en.Wikipedia. Expansion and sourcing are a matter for regular editing by interested editors, and not deletion.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 18:34, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
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