Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of 10 longest-reigning popes


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The result was Keep as List of popes by length of reign. —Wknight94 (talk) 03:10, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

List of 10 longest-reigning popes

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List comrising an arbitrary number of holders of an arbitrarily selected office selected and ordered by an arbitrary criterion. Which is in and of itself very short, most of the article is given over to arguing about whether St. Peter was a pope at all. Are dates from the 4th and 5th Centuries accurate anyway? Guy (Help!) 19:07, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The St. Peter part should probably go elsewhere. -- User:Docu
 * Delete per nom, useless - such a list would be interesting trivia at best :: mikm t  19:09, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Redirect to list of popes by length of reign. All I would expect is a mention of the longest-reigning pope at List of popes, but this list is trivial and unnecessary. You might want to nominate List of 10 shortest-reigning popes for deletion as well.  Michaelas10   (Talk)   19:15, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Neutral on the list itself (while "arbitrary", it does offer a finite listing, which is more than can be said than a lot of listcruf, and does state that the dates are " determined from contemporary historical data" (which then begs for verification)). However, regardless the fate of this article, the balance of the article after the list itself should be merged with Saint Peter, if there is anything not already contained in the target article. Agent 86 19:39, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * it should be Merged to a List of Popes by length of reign. bogdan 19:43, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep The Pope is an international leader and listing the longest-reigning such person is not unusual for reference works. A search for "Longest-reigning Popes", with wikipedia and several mirrors removed, gets over a thousand ghits. In addition we have List of longest reigning monarchs of all time and List of longest reigning current monarchs.--T. Anthony 20:14, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge and expand per bogdan. TCC (talk) (contribs) 00:17, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep The Pope is a Medieval King, and at one time had a court. A real encyclopedia has this sort of information. I find it bias to lable historical information arbitrary.--Margrave1206 00:48, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOT. What next? List of the 10 tallest popes? Ohconfucius 05:26, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I know you're being silly, but you're not being silly in a constructive way. Length of time reigned is different than a physical feature. The List of longest reigning monarchs of all time has been around for 8 months without leading to a List of tallest monarchs. Further this list has been here for over three years without leading to anything like what you suggest.--T. Anthony 06:23, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep as the "arbitrary selected office" (in the nom of User:JzG) is the one stated in the page's title and matches the content of the list. -- User:Docu
 * Keep so that it can be merged as List of popes by length of reign, à la List of longest reigning current monarchs. —Psychonaut 12:38, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if it's worth having those
 * Keep Basically, as above. merge into List of popes by lenghth of reign Darkcraft 14:38, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect to List of popes by length of reign.  &gt; R a d i a n t &lt;  15:51, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep* This article provides useful trivia. It is especially useful when someone is researching about the popes. Also, the argument about Saint Peter being a pope or not is a viable argument and should be noted and discussed. The statements about utter nonsense are ridiculous. Knowledge of the years of a pope's reign is useful in studing that pope. Captain panda 03:01, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge into List of popes. It's important and useful information, but isn't big enough for its own article. PTO 21:03, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The other list is already sufficiently long. -- User:Docu
 * Delete and merge to list of popes--Sefringle 02:41, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment List of popes is 86k long, it doesn't need to be made any longer. One article containing the 10 or so longest and shortest reigns would be fine. Gimmetrow 18:37, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge with 10 shortest reigning popes, and get rid of the POV stuff that follows the list. It has nothing to do with the list, and the only place where it could belong is in an article on Peter or the Papacy (although there it would probably be too POV to stay for long). Pastordavid 18:39, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.