Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of 2004 Songs


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus is that a category is more appropriate in this instance. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  13:16, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

List of 2004 Songs

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Wikipedia is not a directory for all the songs produced in 2004 (which the article is not even close to). See WP:NOTDIR. -KAP03(Talk &bull;&#32;Contributions &bull;&#32;Email) 14:06, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete: more suitable for a category and Category:2004 songs already exists.   Dr Strauss   talk   14:11, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. -KAP03(Talk &bull;&#32;Contributions &bull;&#32;Email) 14:46, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. -KAP03(Talk &bull;&#32;Contributions &bull;&#32;Email) 14:46, 29 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep for the following reasons:
 * This qualifies for an article per WP:NOTDUP relative to Category:2004 songs
 * This is a work in progress, per the article's Revision history. The article creator has been expanding the article after the nomination for deletion. The nomination states "which the article is not even close to", but it takes time and effort to populate articles. The article would benefit from expansion, which takes time.
 * The list is comprised of notable, blue-linked songs that have articles on Wikipedia.
 * Please do not bite the newcomers – The article was created on 13:49, 29 July 2017‎ and nominated for deletion 17 minutes later 14:06, 29 July 2017.
 * – North America1000 15:06, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. North America1000 15:32, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment Most of this is covered here.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 16:13, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTINDISCRIMINATE. Ajf773 (talk) 20:22, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTINDISCRIMINATE. Define notable (to some it means front page news in the NYT, others it means a track on their favourite album). In the UK there are probably 5000 new songs actually released per week (albums, singles, download only). They are notable because issue can be established! That excludes those songs on amateur sites which could be referenced. In other words, songs by year has the potential to be larger than the rest of WP, or in simple terms, just too big to be of any use to anybody. There are many songs/singles lists by year, by country, by chart and if the creator of this article can find a section of missing lists then great, let's add it. As for the creator of this article, please see Your first article and go from there, better luck next time and happy editing. --Richhoncho (talk) 07:56, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per Northamerica1000 as satisfying WP:LISTPURP and WP:NOTDUP. Contra the nomination, NOTDIR itself notes that Wikipedia keeps "index[es] or director[ies] of its own content." And it is standard practice to limit lists of X, where not every X that exists is notable, only to the Xs that are notable. "Notable" means "has or should have an article" per WP:N, nothing more. So the nominator and Richhoncho's fear about this including all the 2004 songs that exist or were produced is unfounded. When the list is expanded with valid article entries to the point where it gets too big for one page, it can be split into sublists. postdlf (talk) 17:15, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge with 2004_in_music. TimTempleton (talk) (cont)  06:12, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   09:37, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as the article title is ambiguous anyway ("list of 2004 songs"), but then has a prose title saying "notable", yet no given justification is offered as to why those mentioned are indeed notable. Not only that, but there is considerably more information for the casual reader on this article as previously mentioned. The article respective of this AfD in my view has no value. Bungle (talk • contribs) 19:03, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
 * "Notable" is intended there to limit this to songs that have articles. This is already discussed above, and is completely standard to do. postdlf (talk) 02:06, 7 August 2017 (UTC)


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