Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of 2007 albums


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The result was keep. WP:SNOW per discussion and WP:NOTDUP. Additionally, given that the lists are all annotated, the nominator's claim that they have no information beyond the categories' bare alphabetical listing of album (article) titles is so clearly erroneous as to arguably make this eligible for a WP:SK close. postdlf (talk) 22:22, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

List of 2007 albums
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Per WP:NOTDIRECTORY. All 2007 with articles are already listed in Category:2007 albums, so this information is redundant. I also don't think this list of much value since we will never be able to list all albums released in a year and I don't see how simply listing albums released within year benefits readers. Littlecarmen (talk) 15:07, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reason:

Littlecarmen (talk) 15:20, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. -- Eclipsed (talk) (email) 15:44, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
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 * Keep per WP:CLN.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 17:52, 6 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:NOTDUP relative to the respective categories for the article topics. These articles provide more information than categories can ever provide, and as per WP:NOTDUP, categories and lists covering the same topics are considered to be "complementary, not inappropriately duplicative." North America1000 19:45, 6 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep, as mentioned above, per WP:NOTDUP.
 * I went to List of 2014 albums and clicked on the first five albums, and scrolled down to the respective categories. It linked me to either Category:2014 albums or Category:2014 EPs, so first off, one list bifuricates into at least two categories.  Second, Category:2014 albums listed 10 subcategories, and then started listing pages in category "2014 albums".  It only listed the first 200 pages out of a total of 1872, so it looks like one may have to page through 10 pages to see all the albums released in 2014 that are listed in Wikipedia.  The pages were sorted alphabetically by the name of the album Wikipedia title, which may or may not list the band in the title.  It does not list the date the album was released in 2014.  However, a visit to List of 2014 albums shows that the page is sorted by date of release, and lists the band titles, the album titles, the genre, the label, the producer, and a citation.  This shows that the lists are complementary and not duplicative.  For example, looking to a library catalog, one can search for material by title, by author, by subject matter.  A library does not say that it listed the title, and that is sufficient to find any item in the library.  Multiple search systems allow better research into a subject. Mburrell (talk) 22:50, 6 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:AOAL.
 * I would argue that this information is not redundant since the Category of albums only lists albums with a Wikipedia page. Some albums on the list of albums do not have pages because they have only recently been announced or are from lesser known artists whose albums do not always have pages dedicated to them. However, fans of these artists and music fans in general may be interested to know that they have a new album upcoming (this is mainly relevant to the list of albums of the current year). For instance in the List of 2015 albums, I counted over 30 albums with confirmed release dates from August until the end of the year that did not have Wikipedia pages. The List of 2015 albums is the only article Wikipedia provides that lists albums that do not have pages dedicated to them. It has already been mentioned above how listing albums within a year benefits readers. The main one I would say is that it has the advantage of listing the artist, album title and release date all in a very convenient location. If only the categories page existed, it would simply list album titles alphabetically. The list of albums page is far more beneficial than the categories page if, for instance, you were looking for albums coming out in the next month or so. The category for upcoming albums would not be sufficient as you could not restrict the albums to a particular month. 9:30, 7 August 2015 (GMT+10).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.188.32 (talk)
 * Who goes to Wikipedia to find out about upcoming releases though? You go to music news sites for that information, not an encyclopedia. All right, the information isn't completely redundant but I still don't see the use of the list. Littlecarmen (talk) 07:07, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
 * , I go to Wikipedia to find out about upcoming releases. In early 2014, I had not heard of List of 2014 albums, so I was going to the individual Wikipedia pages of artists and bands for about 100 artists I follow (not everyday) to check for new releases (fans know faster than most other sources).  Then I discovered the list of albums and thought I could track upcoming releases easier in one article.  Turns out that people post about a bunch of artist I don't care about, so I still have to do occasional sweeps through the list.  But, for example, someone posted that Keith Richards was releasing a new album.  I had not been looking for an album by him, so the posting in List of 2015 albums told me about an album I was not expecting.  The article also introduced me to Little Boots and Butcher Babies.  The article may not work for everybody, but I have found as an engineer that talking to non-engineers (artists in particular) that there are many different ways to look at the world.  I find that there is not one prescriptive way to do things, and I wish to keep this particular channel of information open because it works better for me than many of the other alternatives. Mburrell (talk) 04:25, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

KEEP: easy and convienient way to find out new albums being released, bought so many albums, that i wouldnt have known about, with these pages .... Great addition to Wikipedia :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.39.229 (talk) 07:59, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Snow Keep. Why on god's green earth would you remove this? Based on your logic, 2015 in film and other lists like that would also violate WP:NOTDIRECTORY. I would ask, however, if these article will only list studio albums or also EPs and compilations. If the former, these articles should be called "List of studio albums". Just a suggestion. 和DITOR  E tails 08:43, 8 August 2015 (UTC)


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