Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of 2022 This American Life episodes


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 06:39, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

List of 2022 This American Life episodes

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WP:NOT. This is nothing but a list of episodes with no encyclopedic value. MB 03:21, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * weak keep: I'm not seeing how this is different from the multitudes of season-by-season lists of television and podcast episodes – save for a clunkier formatting from an older time. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 05:28, 30 August 2022 (UTC) Neutral per – recreations of this article should be properly formatted, instead of being a link farm. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 18:49, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Radio and Lists.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:11, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a strong argument. MB 13:30, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * @MB: I'd counter with When to use or avoid "other stuff exists" arguments – it's up to you to explain why these precedents make for an invalid argument. Podcast/television lists are firmly a part of the encyclopedia (not just one article, it's an established practice) – why shouldn't this? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 21:43, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The purpose of episode lists isn't to help drive traffic to TAL's website by providing offsite links to its own streaming copies of its own episodes — the purpose of episode lists is for content about the episodes to be contained and sourced within Wikipedia. Wikipedia lists exist to help people find Wikipedia articles, not to help people find off-Wikipedia content. Bearcat (talk) 17:10, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @Bearcat: That's a fair point – i'd be amenable to changing my vote to a neutral for that reason (WP:DINC) notwithstanding. I would like to emphasize to the closer, and any future editors considering recreating these articles post-deletion, that there should not be prejudice against recreation if the article is properly formatted to avoid the "link farm" problem. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 18:48, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. These list articles don't serve much encyclopedic value. All they are, are weblinks to listen to the programmes online, nothing to back them up by use of independent sources. If 2021 and 2022 are deleted, then so too should the rest. Ajf773 (talk) 09:25, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete this isn’t even a proper list article, it’s a link farm. Dronebogus (talk) 14:04, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Do whatever you want - I'll never understand how destroying information is a benefit. You have to start somewhere, so if someone has the time to expand the article, there is a seed. But, go ahead, but also delete all the other episode list pages of TAL. Richard Zsigmondy (talk) 22:50, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Draftspace is a thing. Finish your pages rather than dumping them on others in a premature state. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Information cannot be destroyed but Wikipedia is under no obligation to contain every tidbit of it. Dronebogus (talk) 12:23, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not for creating directory lists to serve as finding aids to content on other websites — the value in an episode list, whether for a radio or television show, is not in providing outbound links to streaming copies of the episodes on their own websites, but in providing properly sourced content within Wikipedia about the episodes, such as descriptions of their content. But the other problem here is that these aren't the only two of these: similar directory lists, comprising offsite links to the show's own self-published website instead of reliably sourced episode descriptions, currently exist going all the way back to 1995, and are problematic for the exact same reasons. So really they need to all either get converted to a proper Wikipedia episode list format or go away, not just these two in isolation. I am, for the record, willing to reconsider this if somebody actually strips the offsite links. Bearcat (talk) 17:05, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per Bearcat. Nythar T . C 18:20, 4 September 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.