Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of 30 Rock cast members


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to List of 30 Rock characters.  Jujutacular  talk 00:58, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

List of 30 Rock cast members

 * – ( View AfD View log )

Essentially a direct mirror of List of 30 Rock characters. Provides no real new information beyond what is in that original list other than maybe the undefined/sourced claims about when someone was a "recurring/guest" and when they were a "Star" (which could be added easily to that list anyways). Staxringold talkcontribs 19:03, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: I find articles (charts is probably a better word) like this very useful, which is why I created it. The character list is missing many of the characters listed here, and does not specify exactly when a character appeared (it is also missing a lot of information on that), which actually adds a lot of information that was previously not included in any article.  Anyway, I think that the information organized in a chart format is a simple way to get a good overview of the series. Kevinbrogers (talk) 19:16, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Things like seasons appeared could easily be added with almost no work. And why does the chart (which is about 99% of this article) need it's own page? Why can't it just be on the character page? And where is the sourcing for it? Things like listing Dreyfuss as a guest appearance version of Liz is a pretty misleading way of putting it. Staxringold talkcontribs 19:25, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The chart doesn't necessarily have to have it's own page, it could easily be merged to the character list, if that's what is decided. I don't think it really needs sourcing, but I can do that too if necessary.  And yes, I was hesitant about adding Dreyfus to the list (going to change that right now). Kevinbrogers (talk) 19:28, 1 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep, it can be added to the other page in the near future. It is a novel navigation device, not an article. Very well done. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 00:59, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete That kind of info can easily be summarized in half a sentence for each character in List of 30 Rock characters, no need for a separate article. Its only purpose seems to be to provide timeline statistics for actors playing characters, and besides the apparant crufityness, we have WP:NOT discouraging it. – sgeureka t•c 16:04, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:10, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:11, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Everyone keeps saying that the information in the table can be added onto each character's description on the character list. I would have done that in the first place, except that in order to get a comparison (which is what I'd like to do on things like this), the reader would have to scroll through an entire lengthy article and search for material, which would get extremely tedious and frustrating.  How about a simple merge to the character list? Kevinbrogers (talk) 16:14, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge to List of 30 Rock characters. The table is great, not OR, and NOT#STATS doesn't apply to things like this which lack the level of trivial detail envisioned there.  Having said that, there's no particular reason for two separate articles, so the more traditional name ("... characters") can contain both its current content and this presentation. Jclemens (talk) 16:59, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge to List of 30 Rock characters per Jclemens. Statements that the info could be "summarized in half a sentence for each character" miss the whole point of the table, which is to present all of this info together and in a visual format that presents it more clearly than mere text could.  We should have more visual representations of info like this on Wikipedia.  postdlf (talk) 16:31, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - WE ALREADY HAVE THIS LIST it's called List of 30 Rock characters.... I doubt RICHARD ARTHUR NORTON will prove my point more succinctly: "It is a novel navigation device, not an article. Very well done." WOW. Somebody has very different ideas about the notability criteria than everyone else, [outside of the ARS... put on explicit display]. That's all you need to know. Shadowjams (talk) 11:17, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The claim that it contains the same information as the character list has already been addressed above, and at most merging the table to that list is the appropriate remedy, not outright deletion. You've also simultaneously suggested that this cast list is redundant to an existing list and also somehow fails notability, which doesn't make any sense.  postdlf (talk) 21:17, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.