Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of 40-plus point games by Michael Jordan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  Sandstein  13:26, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

List of 40-plus point games by Michael Jordan

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Propose deleting per WP:NOTSTATSBOOK with the addition of lack of sources. – Sabbatino (talk) 11:09, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages because they have the same problems with the addition of such lists being original research:
 * – Sabbatino (talk) 16:40, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Is it in procedural order to create an omnibus deletion discussion like this? I agree those pages need to go, but I'm not so sure it's kosher to expand the scope of a deletion discussion in this way. If a patrolling admin could weigh in it'd be appreciated. Gimubrc (talk) 16:42, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. WP:BUNDLE says that it is acceptable. – Sabbatino (talk) 17:12, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * In that case, no objections - besides, if we delete one, the others should follow for consistency. Gimubrc (talk) 17:23, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Is it in procedural order to create an omnibus deletion discussion like this? I agree those pages need to go, but I'm not so sure it's kosher to expand the scope of a deletion discussion in this way. If a patrolling admin could weigh in it'd be appreciated. Gimubrc (talk) 16:42, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. WP:BUNDLE says that it is acceptable. – Sabbatino (talk) 17:12, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * In that case, no objections - besides, if we delete one, the others should follow for consistency. Gimubrc (talk) 17:23, 26 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Strong keep My main reasoning is this: if LeBron James and Kobe Bryant each have an article of this sort, why shouldn't the undisputed GOAT (who almost has the same number of 40-plus point games as them combined) have one? Paulinho28 (talk) 11:24, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. Both List of 40-plus point games by LeBron James and List of 40-plus point games by Kobe Bryant should be deleted as well. Wikipedia is not a statistics' page and these are purely trivial. A mention about the number of such games in prose is enough. – Sabbatino (talk) 11:33, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: We don't keep articles purely because WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. -- Darth Mike (talk) 15:17, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 12:20, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 12:20, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete all 3, because of the arbitrary cutoff: why 40 and not 30 (or 50)? This particular 40-point criterion is not itself more notable than any other.  We very recently closed as delete Articles for deletion/List of virtual communities with more than 100 million active users for the same reason.  UnitedStatesian (talk) 13:04, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Remove all regular season 40-plus point game lists. 40-points is too low a threshold to merit an NBA list article.  Wilt Chamberlain had 271 such regular-season games in his career, and had two seasons in which he averaged more than this amount (i.e., scoring less than 40 would have been more unusual for him than scoring more than 40 in those seasons).  If such a list was created for Chamberlain, it would virtually include a personal 1961-62 season game log, as he had 63 games that season in which he had 40+ points. He had another 52 such games in the following season. &mdash; Myasuda (talk) 13:08, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete all 3 as Wikipedia is not a sports statistics encyclopedia. SportsGuy789 (talk) 15:08, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTSTATSBOOK. -- Darth Mike (talk) 15:17, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTSTATSBOOK, and I wonder if we should also nominate the Kobe & LeBron pages too while we're at it. Gimubrc (talk) 16:36, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Inappropriate statistical almanac. It is not our job to duplicate anything basketball-reference.com archives. Reywas92Talk 17:29, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete all. List of National Basketball Association single-game scoring leaders is quite sufficient (and sneers at mere 40-point games). Clarityfiend (talk) 19:36, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:NOTSTATSBOOK and delete any other list of xx plus point games by Y RhinosF1(chat) (status)(contribs) 21:06, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete As previously mentioned, Wikipedia isn't an encyclopedia for statistics of a player in any sport, it takes up way too much time and effort to go through every. single. season. to chalk down every specific game. While we're at it, this rule can apply to the other two pages, both Kobe's and LeBron's for the exact same reason. It takes too long to edit and verify. If anything, push the point mark higher, say 60+ points, to shorten it down; in not only page length, but timewise too. Cheesy McGee (talk) 12:59, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete each individual's notable achievements are covered well enough on their articlesRollidan (talk) 20:31, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Forty point games isn't really something to state as that really sets the bar low. But I agree on what Cheesy McGee has said and it should really be a higher benchmark but probably instead of 60+ points. Maybe only have it at 50+. Matt294069 (talk) 01:37, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Snow delete all per WP:NOTSTATS. Lists can be notable when most entries have a notable blue link for navigation (e.g. one for every award winner, championship game, person with notable achievement). In this case, there isn't (and shouldn't be) a blue link for each game; each line is about the same person. It's just a mere stat listing with no navigation.—Bagumba (talk) 10:01, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
 * delete all 3 NOTSTATS is clear. Info can be included in the individual articles if it's not already there.Sandals1 (talk) 16:07, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge. Put it on his career achievements page. User:Polly7423]] (talk) 12:59, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:NOTSTATS applies for both standalone or embedded (i.e. merged) lists.—Bagumba (talk) 04:53, 2 May 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.