Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Adult Contemporary top 10 singles in 1961 (U.S.) (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Izno (talk) 02:09, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

List of Adult Contemporary top 10 singles in 1961 (U.S.)
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I nominated this in bulk three years ago with a result of Keep, but I'm still not sure how a list of songs of any length beyond number ones from a minor secondary chart (albeit with a long history) passes WP:LISTN. I believe the type of information these types of list try to impart reached WP:IINFO, doesn't receive coverage in third-party sources, and some info like "Weeks in top ten" are not verifiable outside of looking at every chart week by week and keeping one's own tally. Since the first nomination, top-ten lists of other charts have been deleted, such as: So there seems to be some growing precedence. There are a number of other similar lists that still exist with particularly concerted efforts by individuals to continue and expand the List of Billboard Hot 100 top-ten singles, Lists of UK top-ten singles, and Lists of UK top-ten albums, but those are for another discussion. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 01:19, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 01:32, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 01:32, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 01:33, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment While I'm not a fan of the year-by-year articles of every minor chart, sourced only to the Billboard site, why are we going after these instead of the number one lists? E.g. List of Adult Contemporary top 10 singles in 2012 (U.S.) has a lot more info than List of Billboard Adult Contemporary number ones of 2012. If the former are largely non-notable secondary charts, aren't the latter too? Keeping one's own tally of weeks is still perfectly verifiable. Reywas92Talk 02:08, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * You have a good point, and I can only say that there simply hasn't been an effort to do so. A discussion would have to take place to agree which lists of number ones are acceptable (Hot 100, UK Singles? Then there's the "if that, why not this" arguments for each country's charts or some genre chart.). That's a bit of an undertaking. I don't know how self-sourcing one's own tally can be verifiable since there is a chance for error like missing a week or miscounting. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 03:04, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 14:00, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. This method of analyzing the chart (that is, by date of entry into the top 10) doesn't appear to be particularly useful to fans of the music charts. By contrast, lists of number 1 hits are easier to understand. In addition, I've only reviewed the 1961 page, but it has two major errors: (1) The dates of all the charts are wrong, as Billboard published charts on July 17, 24, 31, August 7, etc., instead of July 22, 29, August 5, 12, etc. (2) Billboard did not have an Adult Contemporary chart in 1961 -- it had an Easy Listening chart. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:43, 24 September 2020 (UTC)


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