Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Aerosmith outtakes


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The result was delete. –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 18:48, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

List of Aerosmith outtakes

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A long list of mostly unsourced fan speculation and otherwise poorly (or primary) sourced non-notable stuff. Really, sources like this should not be used in any Wikipedia article. The takes that made it into the official discography are or should be mentioned there, and the rest doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Fram (talk) 22:02, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose: There are 38 references; granted, there could be more references and better references added (they do exist) and the article could be improved a bit, but the article should not be outright deleted. Having the outtakes cataloged here makes it easier for researchers to understand where the takes came from, how they have evolved, what's still out there, how rough outtakes from one album were developed and placed on later albums, etc.  Aerosmith's overly-long discography has already been broken up and it makes sense to have a separate page for the unreleased material, of which there is considerable documented information. Other artists of similar stature have similar articles and we should strive to improve this article to be on par with the others (see: List of unreleased material recorded by The Bee Gees, List of unreleased songs recorded by the Beach Boys, List of unreleased songs recorded by Pink Floyd, List of unreleased songs recorded by Madonna, List of unreleased songs recorded by Michael Jackson, etc.) Abog (talk) 16:40, 30 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Merge to List of songs recorded by Aerosmith, let's keep the recording history of Aerosmith together. Otherwise, delete per nom. --Richhoncho (talk) 09:58, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sam Sailor Talk! 02:12, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge into List of songs recorded by Aerosmith; there may be 38 refs, but virtually none of this sourcing is WP:RS-quality. Aside from this, these sources only provide minute details about various pieces; they do not in any substantive sense discuss the notability of the core topic of "Aerosmith outtakes", and this notability must be established as with any other article (see WP:SAL).  Details on these songs could be added to a stand-alone section in the main article for Aerosmith's discography, provided consensus for such a move can be gained there (and I doubt that would be difficult), but regardless of the outcome of that discussion, this particular article, violating multiple core guidelines as it does, needs to go.  S n o w  let's rap 05:46, 6 November 2015 (UTC)


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