Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Afghan philosophers


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) SST  flyer  11:03, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

List of Afghan philosophers

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I'm afraid this is a nonsensical POV/agenda loaded article created in an attempt to label medieval intellectuals (philosophers), in this case Persians, as "Afghans", long before anything remotely close to the foundation of this state (Afghanistan) was made and the demonym of "Afghans/Afghanis" was formed. Its the same nonsense to which the noted Rumi is sometimes labeled as "Turkish" on the internet simply because he lived on the soil of modern-day Turkey, or like the Roman Emperor Trajan being labeled as a "Spaniard" simply because the latter was born in what is nowadays Spain. Removing these medieval ones is also no option I believe, as the artile will simply become and remain a playground for IP hoppers, resulting in more nationalistic editorial editing. A list of actual Afghan philosophers would be way too small to warrant for a real article, looking at the number that are listed on Wikipedia. LouisAragon (talk) 00:42, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
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- Regarding your views dear Louis I must mention you that according to the fourth article of the current Constitution of Afghanistan states that citizens of Afghanistan consist of Pashtuns, Tajiks, Hazara, Uzbek, Turkmen, Aymaq, Arab, Baluch, Pashayi, Nuristani, Qezelbash, Gujjars, Brahui, and members of other tribes. As an adjective, the word Afghan also means "of or relating to Afghanistan or its people, language, or culture". And, regarding ( attempt to label medieval intellectuals (philosophers), in this case Persians, as "Afghans") you must clearly review history of each personality listed in above article, and according to your word it is also the same nonsense to label King Mohammed Nadir Shah as an Indian just because he was born in Dehradun, British India or Said Jamal ad-Din Afghan as an Iranian just because his place of birth (i.e.; Asadabad district of Kunar province) is similar to the Asadabad of Iran. All the enlisted personalities are belonging to the territory of Afghanistan and are Afghan Persians, Persian can be an Afghan or an Iranian but not an Arab, Pashtun, Uzbek, etc. And you to view as all Persians are Iranians is totally wrong. \\'arrior 786 (talk) 22:32, 8 March 2016 (UTC)


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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * This looks like a content dispute that should be resolved first through normal talk page discussion, not something AFD can or should decide. If it turns out after that process that you think there are too-few editor consensus-supported entries that qualify for this list and its corresponding category Category:Afghan philosophers to merit keeping the list, then proceed to AFD. postdlf (talk) 20:01, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   20:09, 16 March 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   12:48, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. The selection criteria for this lost comply with WP:LSC. Any disputes about the individuals that should be included in this list can be resolved on the article's talk page. As an aside, if you'd like to know more about Afghan philosophers, check out this interesting interview from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 16:33, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep – Not sure what's going on between the two editors at the top but this seems to be a content dispute and not a matter for deletion. The list has ostensibly sound criteria per and needs work, not deletion. — Nizolan  (talk) 10:07, 28 March 2016 (UTC)


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