Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Albanian countries and regions


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. ✗ plicit  14:21, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

List of Albanian countries and regions

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WP:COATRACK and WP:POVFORK of History of Albania with virtually no sources and zero evidence that the various entities mentioned here (several of which, such as the Muhammad Ali dynasty and the League of Prizren, aren't "countries or regions") have any continuity whatsoever. Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 19:04, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 19:04, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 19:04, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albania-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:05, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:33, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to History of Albania. This looks like a POV fork. I find it interesting how North Macedonia is called "the present Albanian political entity". Guided by that logic, Montenegro should also be an Albanian political entity. In principle, I think redirection would be a good solution. --Aca (talk) 12:01, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect Delete per comment above, redirect to History of Albania. Delete per recent and similar Afd --Vacant0 (talk) 17:50, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep -- This is appropriate to keep: this is a list article. This should not need sources, as these will be in the articles listed.  The function of articles of this kind is to serve as an index, which it potentially does well.  It is certainly not ideal as some of the content is rulers rather than regions.  I see little evidence of COATRACK.  It id certainly a fork, but not a POVFORK.  If there is anything in it that is POV, the solution is to edit not delete; or redirect, which is equally destructiuve.  Peterkingiron (talk) 19:00, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * There was a similar situation regarding the "List of Serb countries and regions" article, both of these articles serve (and served) the purpose of nationalist POV. Even though it is a list, it is completely unsourced. --Vacant0 (talk) 15:10, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per recent and very similar debate. The same logic should apply here. Soundwaweserb (talk) 21:15, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   14:19, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as I believe a precedent has now been set with the Serb page. This should also probably be applied to the numerous other similar list articles. Vladimir.copic (talk) 22:21, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - the assertion from above is that a community consensus has been established with regard to this particular type of article. Content notwithstanding, I see no reason presented as to why that consensus shouldn't prevail. A list that serves its stated purpose can always be proposed for creation.  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 02:36, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, but leave a redirect to History of Albania.-- ౪ Santa ౪ 99°  02:02, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: per nom Nitesh003 (talk) 12:37, 21 August 2021 (UTC)


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