Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of American television series by setting


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The result was delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 21:10, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

List of American television series by setting

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Unsourced, indiscriminate, fancruft list without any references. It is woefully incomplete, in part because it does not include any works with extraterrestrial settings — I can also name a show set in a fictional Arizona town (Clarence) that is not in the list. Although I have not investigated WP:LISTN for any list of TV shows set in a specific real-world location, this combined list fails LISTN. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 21:55, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Television, Lists,  and United States of America. –LaundryPizza03 ( d  c̄ ) 21:55, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. By setting I guess means 'state'. ORish categorization. Effectively unreferenced, fails LISTN. This is something that I guess is acceptable through a category system, but having an article (listicle...) is pointless. List of foo-type media set in Foo-land is almost never an encyclopedic topic. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 10:07, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete every show is set somewhere, so this list is essentially a list of every American tv show. Agree that this is indiscriminate. Rhino131 (talk) 12:43, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete This is an undersourced list that is less than comprehensive. Settings can often be trivial and incidental. Also, how about shows that end up being set in multiple locations. For example I notice under Kansas - fictional we have Smallville, we do not have Superman and Lois, which is just as much set in Smallville, Kansas. We do not have Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman. True that is mainly set in the fictional city of Metroplois, in the fictional state of New Troy, but if you do an analysis of the show you will find that 2 episodes in full and another episode in large part mainly occur in Smallville, Kansas, and lots of scenes and sequences in several other episodes occur in Smallville. More to the point I am going to challenge people to come up with comprehensive listings of this in reliable secondary sources. Keep in mind the setting of a show is not the same as the location of filming. It is a functional of the fictional nature of the show, and so is often understated and non-defining.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:05, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I thought about this some more. Why is this a list of American television shows by setting instead of a list of shows set in the US? The later would group together all shows set in a particular location, no matter who exactly created or funded the show. That would make at least as much sense.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:06, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment I just realized that there is literally not a place on this list to fit not just Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman. That show is not primarily set in an unspecified state, it is set in New Troy which is a fictious state, but is clearly, if obliquely specified.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:09, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, no clear criterion for inclusion. Most shows have at least some degree of a setting, and quite a lot use major cities like NYC or LA for familiarity. Some use fictional towns in real states, and some don't specify setting at all or obfuscate the setting for comedy (e.g. The Simpsons). There is no true way to sort TV series by setting because of this. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 17:07, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Also some settings change. I Love Lucy started in New York City, later they roamed across the country, and later they moved out to Connecticut. Lois and Clark, is mainly in Metroplis (fictional city), New Troy (fictional state), but has secondary scenes in Smallville (fictional city), Kansas. I am sure we could come up with other examples. How much does a show have to appear in a given place for that setting to be worth listing?John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:13, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Totally trivial list, fails WP:NOTINDISCRIMINATE. Ajf773 (talk) 20:44, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete The list is pure fancruft, no more, no less..TH1980 (talk) 04:03, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as indiscriminate, as per WP:NOT. There are innumerable television series, which is indiscriminately large as a topic already. Choosing to sort them by setting is arbitrary, so this fails on multiple issues. Shooterwalker (talk) 23:08, 15 May 2022 (UTC)


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