Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Asian American Hip Hop Artists


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The result was delete, again this is a case where a category serves better, the red-links artists doesn't meet WP:MUSIC after a quick google check. Jaranda wat's sup 22:38, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

List of Asian American Hip Hop Artists

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Pure cruft, no sources, mostly red links. Rackabello 20:51, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I was going to add the pages for those artists asap to eliminate the red links and I also plan to add sources as well. --thefunk42 20:54, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


 * For now, Keep. I would let thefunk42 have time to create the articles and source it and if then it still doesn't come up to standard, it should be deleted. I believe I shall be helping with the links and such.Silver seren 20:56, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Edit: I believe this will end up much like List of wild mammal species in Florida?Silver seren 21:45, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep for now, maybe we should have a list of Asian rappers, though I am Asian and I don't like rap. WooyiTalk to me? 22:32, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete and replace it with a category. List is not beneficial in this case. Corpx 23:08, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually since being Asian has little to no bearing on one's hip hop career, that would be overcategorization. Weak keep but it needs serious help. Look here. It requires a clear header: North America or either America continent or USA or what can go in, it's not supposed to ambiguous whether Asian Canadians can be added, yet someone did and felt like qualifying it. The headers seem kinda arbitrary, and there's no lead paragraph. But it seems very savable to me. Spriteless 03:19, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Categorize as Corpx suggested. It is more appropriate to have a category instead of a possible incomplete and unmaintainable and unsourced list.--JForget 16:18, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Categorize I have started a category Category:Asian Americans in music since there isn't an overall category now and frankly there are still only a few "breakout" Asian American hip-hop artists. Wl219 12:11, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge into Category:Hip hop musicians. A category like Category:Asian-American Hip hop musicians could never exist per WP:Overcategorization. Additionaly, a category like Category:Asian Americans in music should only categorize people by ethnicity if this has significant bearing on their career. As an aside, the argument on incomlete lists, needed maintenance and lack of sources is extremely weak. Categories, lists, and series boxes states clearly that categories, lists and series boxes can co-exist. It isn't a competition. So many lists get nominated here just because they have a category also, and such nominators and voters systematically vote for deletion on such matters. It is my belief these participants are guilty of WP:Point, as they understand the guideline states categories and lists work in synergy, yet continue to assert an either/or argument. Additionally, categories are never sourced. A few simple references at the bottom of a list is a good thing, and is more reliable than a category filled with no references. Maintaining lists should really never be a factor, as the argument assumes an inability to do so that by nature can not be scientifically proven. (Mind meal 01:45, 26 July 2007 (UTC))
 * Delete, similar lists have been deleted before, see Articles for deletion/List of rappers notable for their race. musicpvm 22:27, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


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