Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Asian American jurists


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Black Kite (t) (c) 19:14, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

List of Asian American jurists

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A long list of names for which there are no Wikipedia articles. If there were such articles, then it might be able to squeak by, but as it is, it seems that a category would probably serve better. Unless somebody wants to write all of the articles and then add them to this list? Otherwise, if this article stays, all of the non-article names must be removed. Corvus cornix talk  22:19, 8 December 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 00:15, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:15, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Valid list of legitimate interest. Nor is it necessary that every person included in a list of people have his or her own Wikipedia article, unless perhaps there is some serious implication to being included on the list. Newyorkbrad (talk) 12:51, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Inclusion of material on a list should be based on what reliable sources say, not on what the editor interprets the source to be saying. In lists that involve living persons, the Biographies of living persons policy applies..  Corvus cornix  talk  22:46, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Keep - Discussions of recent ethnicity/profession intersection lists have turned on whether the intersection is itself notable (see here, here, here and here). Articles such as this and this confirm that Asian-American jurists (and the relative lack of them) are a source of significant discussion and are therefore notable.  This is confirmed by the existence of a large number of local, state, and national professional associations for Asian-American lawyers, who routinely comment on Asian-American judicial appointments. - DustFormsWords (talk) 00:28, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete based on current content. A large number of the judges on this list are trial-level judges in the state courts (such as all the ones listed for the Superior Court of a county in California). Being a state trial judge is not inherently notable per WP:POLITICIAN -- the Los Angeles County Superior Court has over 400 judges, over 40 of whom are Asian American and listed on this page. The sources cited by DustFormsWords deal with the appointment or non-appointment of Asian American judges to the federal United States District Courts and the state supreme court, positions on which are significantly more notable than being a state trial judge. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:41, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Content-level problems are not an issue for AfD as they can be resolved through normal editing. You're perfectly capable of deleting the disputed entries and substituting valid ones without undergoing an AfD process. - DustFormsWords (talk) 04:50, 15 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep per DustFormsWords and Newyorkbrad's reasoning. It may, however, be correct that non-notable trial judges could be deleted from the list (I'd presume that all federal judges and all state appellate judges are appropriate for this list). --Arxiloxos (talk) 07:07, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Not without reliable sources.  Corvus cornix  talk  22:24, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.