Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Australia Test cricket records against England


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 06:51, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

List of Australia Test cricket records against England

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Delete WP:NONSTATS. This data is available on www.espncricinfo.com. Wikipedia is not cricinfo. Sdm2211 12:43 17 November 2016 (IST)


 * Keep Availability of information doesn't make article WP:NONSTATS. Test cricket records of national teams are notable.  GreenCricket  (talk)  13:04, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep as historic consensus is Test records of national teams are kept as notable. Atlantic306 (talk) 19:35, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep as part of the significance of this, and similar pages, is that it presents a consistent and complete set of information that is difficult to accumulate quickly from any other source, including Cricinfo. A substantial amount of work was required to present the data in this form. Perry Middlemiss (talk) 22:02, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Procedural comment - Step 3 of the nominating processes was not completed. I have now logged it accordingly. Sir Sputnik (talk) 03:32, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 04:07, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 04:07, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete as WP:NOTMIRROR. The information is directly sourced (using external links not references) from espnCricinfo, and is the only place this is sourced, for example . As for establishing notability, I would assume test records against all nations to be more notable than records between two countries. Ajf773 (talk) 04:22, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Not notable. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 23:10, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar  22:24, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
 *  Keep but rename  to List of Ashes cricket records. At the risk of making a WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument, I'm going to say that we do have an article on List of Cricket World Cup records, and the Ashes is about as important a series in Tests as the World Cup is in ODIs. That said, the current title is, in my opinion, inappropriate, and should be changed to List of Ashes cricket records. Moaz786 (talk to me or see what I've been doing) 17:39, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, so I just looked at the article more carefully than last time, and apparently it only shows Australia's records after all. As such, I believe this article should be deleted, and an article for Ashes should be made separately. Moaz786 (talk to me or see what I've been doing) 20:49, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - all of this information is available elsewhere on sites which specialise in developing databases of cricket stuff. They are going to be able to update their information far more effectively than we will ever be able to. This is simply going to be a less reliable mirror of that information that will get updated whenever someone feels like it. By all means write a prose article or a section on the Ashes page. Blue Square Thing (talk) 16:24, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. All of the info is from cricinfo, so WP:NOTMIRROR currently applies. Also, the topic is so narrow that I don't think it is of encyclopaedic value (a written history of the two teams encounters would be a different story, compared with this page dedicated to statistics). 1292simon (talk) 23:19, 4 January 2017 (UTC)


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