Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Austrian presidents by longevity


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Delete. We have a "keep per precedent", but the three listed similar AFDs all ended in "no consensus", so hardly a precedent there to keep this one. The other keep is basically "it's useful". No actual sources, no references showing that this is indeed a topic that has been the subject of significant coverage, mean that the delete opinions have the better basis in policy and the keep opinions in this case carry less weight. Fram (talk) 10:20, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

List of Austrian presidents by longevity

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This is a sortable table masquerading as an article - I don't see this as a standalone encyclopaedic topic. Note that List of Federal Presidents of Austria exists, and is longer in historical scope. If considered necessary the page List of Federal Presidents of Austria (already a series of small tables) - could be converted into a larger sortable table. I should also note Mddkpp (talk) 21:20, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Also note Articles for deletion/List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom by longevity (all the same author)Mddkpp (talk) 21:27, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Also note Articles for deletion/List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom by longevity (all the same author)Mddkpp (talk) 21:27, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Also note Articles for deletion/List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom by longevity (all the same author)Mddkpp (talk) 21:27, 20 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment Note that previous decisions at AfD were made for similar pages such as United States and the Philippines, and also the comments of the reviewing administrator at a related deletion review Canuck My page89 (talk), 21:32, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Now I discover Category:Lists of political office-holders by age - not sure what is going on here - I suppose I should propose them all.. suggesting delete and merge - Mddkpp (talk) 21:27, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note - my main proposal is the destruction of these standalone-articles, not the content - I can see the value of merging in somecases where not already duplicated in the obvious "parent" article. Thanks.Mddkpp (talk) 21:35, 20 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2012 February 20.  Snotbot   t &bull; c &raquo;  21:34, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per precedent at previous AfDs of related articles. Canuck My page89 (talk), 21:38, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 02:36, 21 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment: It really doesn't help the encyclopedia to delete content like this.  It may seem silly to some, but this is exactly the sort of thing you might find in almanacs.--Milowent • hasspoken  03:47, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I tend to agree - but I think these articles (essentially tables IMO) should be merged into the relavent xxx within Category:Lists of presidents.Mddkpp (talk) 11:22, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete: WP:NOHARM -- Nsda (talk) 12:58, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:JUSTAPOLICY? Canuck My page89 (talk), 13:10, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * And WP:PUTTINGWPSOMETHINGANDNOTHINGELSEMEANSYOULOSETHEGAME.--Milowent • hasspoken 14:49, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete No need to merge anywhere. What could this comparison possibly be used? Somebody, somewhere in this world may find this useful at some point along the timeline of human existance but I can't fathom this as being more than just a temporary deviation from someone's legitimate attempt to learn. To merge it, the bulk of readers will surely be scrolling past it whatever article it is in after a momentary scan of the content.


 * Readers have numerouse links to follow in pages that would be relevant to the members of this list. Their choice on which of those links to follow is challenging enough (if they are even remotely like me). We should not be throwing stones such as this longevity list in their path. My gut feeling says that less than 1% of readers landing on this page will leave with any lasting memory of it or its contents. For me to retain any of this info, it would have to be in the form of a statement: The longest-lived was Kurt Waldheim, the shortest-lived was Thomas Klestil. Start throwing more than those two at me and I've lost interest. Ken Tholke (talk) 14:56, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I've got to totally agree with this sentiment - it's the conflation of two apparently unrelated factors - "being austrian president" and "lifespan". It isn't even a list by "time in office" which. Why not cut to the shit - WHO WAS THE TALLEST? - Is it not a joke? Mddkpp (talk) 15:02, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.