Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Axis Powers Hetalia episodes


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Spartaz Humbug! 05:39, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

List of Axis Powers Hetalia episodes

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no useful content. contested prod. Jack Merridew 03:09, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions.  -- Jack Merridew 03:10, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This article is moar appropriately covered on teh wikia; wikia:hetalia:List of Hetalia: Axis Powers Episodes  -- Jack Merridew 03:25, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * All notable series have a list article for their episodes to be listed. I already asked the one contributor of that article over there to duplicate their stuff over here.  Since their last edit on that wiki was an hour ago, they should still be around to notice.  Just be patient.  If you deleted the article, it'd just be recreated tomorrow when the content was available.   D r e a m Focus  03:30, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Importing from teh Wikia? That's a new one. And during an AfD, too. WP:GTD say anything about this? Jack Merridew 03:34, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I doubt it. Also, the conversation to do so was started right after I deprodded it, and before you nominated this for deletion.    D r e a m Focus  03:53, 11 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete unless someone actually inserts a list of episodes there. The list is 6 months old, so it's time to make it have some content or for it to go. Of course recreation with suitable content is allowed. – sgeureka t•c 06:46, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 *  Redirect  Redirect to Axis Powers Hetalia until such time as someone actually wants to take the time to craft a list suitable for Wikipedia, rather than Wikia. As noted on the A/M project page, the Wikia page is not suitable for straight import due to the excessive, non-free images (and really, the summaries seem like teasers, though at the length of these eps, they may be more whole than first glance would make you believe). -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 13:06, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * May change this depending on clarity of guidelines re transwikiing FROM wikia, which is not a reliable source and is of questionable quality and usefuless as is. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 22:35, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Change to Keep, but also agree the summaries should just be dumped or replaced. While it seems like it was "okay" to use the ones from Wikia, there is still the issue of Wikia not being a reliable source and the summaries are really not up to Wikipedia standards. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 06:41, 13 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Axis Powers Hetalia until someone gets around to writing these up from scratch -- agree with AnmaFinotera that the Wikia ones need a fair amount of work, given they don't really actually summarize the entire episode. Until such time, an empty list is not something to keep around. —Quasirandom (talk) 14:10, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Someone did indeed get around to it, so keep. Standard sort of spin-off from an article on a notable subject. —Quasirandom (talk) 03:05, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Axis Powers Hetalia per above, a redirect will do for now. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:43, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Revised to Keep Contesnt has now been added and per current discussion. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 17:57, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * There, see it now? The article isn't blank anymore, but has all the episodes listed.  The format isn't perfect, but it works.  I contacted the person who did this over at Wiki, who agreed to help with this article.  Any reason to continue this pointless AFD now?   D r e a m Focus  18:26, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Curious....according to that list, most of the episodes had no titles, so where did the titles that are listed (besides just episode X) come from? -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 18:53, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It's unreferenced and teh tag says "Unsourced material may be challenged and removed." This was also a copypasta, not a transwiki, and I'd like to hear back from Flatscan about the propriety of this. Jack Merridew 20:32, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Jack Merridew asked me to comment. I don't see a licensing problem here. The Hetalia Wiki is compatibly licensed under CC-BY-SA, and a number of steps were taken to indicate the original source:
 * Dream Focus includes full URL in edit summary (diff)
 * AnmaFinotera adds a note as dictated by wikia:community:Community Central:Licensing (diff)
 * Malkinann adds Category:Articles with imported Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 text (diff)
 * Malkinann adds to the Talk page (diff) — added later Flatscan (talk) 03:54, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Flatscan (talk) 04:13, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete where are the reliable sources independent of the subject? Redirect only just encourages this stuff.Bali ultimate (talk) 22:33, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:39, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep after checking if the transwiki was okay an episode list is a commonly acceptable spinout article for a series. I've imported a lead to the article from the main Axis Powers Hetalia page, which details its distribution through independent RSes and cited all of the episode dates to the official website for the series, barring the first special. --Malkinann (talk) 02:51, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep but remove any plot summaries that may have come from Wikia. We should be able to write our own summaries and not have to copy them from elsewhere, even if the Wikia's content is as a free-use compatible license. —Farix (t &#124; c) 23:54, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Are you volunteering? ;) It's okay to use Wikia's summaries iff the licenses are compatible and if the text was ported correctly. --Malkinann (talk) 23:58, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * which it wasn't; copypasta. Jack Merridew 01:31, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * A hyperlink is required for attribution within Wikipedia, a hyperlink was and is provided on the base of the page here. We're still waiting to hear if this transwiki was inappropriate.  --Malkinann (talk) 06:06, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I haven't seen the anime nor have any desire to watch it. So no, I am not volunteering. However, to clear the article of any copyright concerns, I think coming up with new episode summaries would be better than copying episode summaries from somewhere else. It far better for Wikipedia to have its own episode summaries instead of copying summaries from somewhere else. We shouldn't be copying text from anywhere unless it is to quote it. —Farix (t &#124; c) 01:40, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * We're still waiting to hear if the transwiki was inappropriate. If it was not appropriate, the copied material and episode summaries can be deleted and the article histpurged.  If it was appropriate, or can be easily made to be so, then the copied material and episode summaries should be preserved.  --Malkinann (talk) 06:06, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep; episode list articles are always suitable separate content from the article on the television series itself.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 04:08, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment will the attribution note on the talk page still be necessary once the episode summaries have been rewritten/replaced? The only other information that was copied which doesn't seem to be directly available in the provided sources (unless that has changed since it was pointed out above) is the episode titles; once those are sourced, the entire table could be trivially recreated from scratch without losing any information anyways. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 04:39, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Once the summaries are gone, the attribution is no longer necessary. The list of titles and dates itself isn't something that needs attribution as anyone could pull the same list of ANN or any other source, reliable or not. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 05:38, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Since the copied plot summaries are not the right tone for Wikipedia, accidental derivation is less likely. Whoever rewrites the list should be mindful of these considerations. Flatscan (talk) 03:54, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep now that there is actual content on the page. 159.182.1.4 (talk) 13:33, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep now that, as the anonymous editor above me said, there is actual content there. Sure, it could maybe do with a little more work, but I think it's good enough now to be kept. Fletch the Mighty (talk) 00:59, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.