Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Barry Bonds' 73 home runs during the 2001 season


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The result was   delete. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 18:11, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

List of Barry Bonds' 73 home runs during the 2001 season

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List cruft. We don't need a page to document all 73 of his 2001 home runs. All pertinent info should be at Barry Bonds or 2001 Major League Baseball season. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:23, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions.  —– Muboshgu (talk) 14:25, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - Bonds' day-by-day in his record-setting season can be examined in detail in Retrosheet and other sources. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:30, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * That has more detail than a Wikipedia page can have and would make for a good external link on one of those other pages. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:32, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I would see this particular article as a parallel to 1998_Major_League_Baseball_home_run_record_chase. Offhand I'm not finding similar pages for Ruth or Maris. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:37, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Should we do something about that for standardization?  Although, I think the 1998 chase (which was an actual chase, with three people, including Griffey) got more coverage than Bonds in 2001. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:45, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * 9/11 and its followup kind of knocked sports off the front page. That, along with Bonds having all the charisma of a cactus. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:50, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's why I see this as different from 1998 record chase. There there was massive and continual attention from outside sources, the entire chase was notable and has coverage. On the other hand Bonds' chase really didn't, so this type of article really has no reason to exist. Same way we don't have List of Ichiro Suzuki's 262 hits during the 2004 season: The overall record is notable but the individual events weren't (same here, each of Bonds' home runs weren't notable, and those that are are already in the Bonds' notable HR list). Staxringold talkcontribs 15:03, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, so if I understand your argument correctly, 1998 was about the chase, and showing their parallel progress helps define the chase better. That would perhaps account for the lack of articles about Ruth 1927 and Maris 1961 also... or Ruth 1921, for that matter. Interestingly enough, 1927 and 1961 coverage tended to compare game-by-game with the previous record holding seasons. Likewise with Mantle in 1961, Greenberg in 1938 and Foxx in 1932. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 15:19, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Precisely, though I do think there'd be a case for the '61 record chase (seeing as how it got a movie made about it and everything). There you actually had competition and heavy coverage, the controversy over 154/162, etc, etc. Staxringold talkcontribs 15:30, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The guy who created it 4 years ago or so is still active, but has yet to come here to defend it. Looks like it's headed for the last roundup. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:29, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I would guess the reason for their being articles on the 1998 and 2001 chases but not 1921, 1927, 1932, 1938 and 1961 is due to recentism and the availability (and lack thereof) of sources. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:42, 3 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NOT, WP:DIRECTORY, and WP:ROIDS Matchups 14:32, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per STATS and DIRECTORY. Plus whatever notable home run events occured for Bonds in 2001 (500th HR, 50 HR club, tying the record, breaking the record, setting the new record) are all listed much more clearly at List of milestone home runs by Barry Bonds. Staxringold talkcontribs 14:40, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: I posted this for discussion at WP:MLB about a week ago. Not much discussion, though. Staxringold talkcontribs 14:41, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I think I was the only one who responded. I thought it should be deleted and figured an AfD would generate more discussion. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:43, 28 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NOTSTATS. -DJSasso (talk) 17:19, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:09, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - I don't see anything worth merging to the Barry Bonds article, and the bulk of the article is contrary to WP:NOTSTATS. -- Whpq (talk) 17:44, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
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