Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Beelzebub characters


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The result was   keep. Courcelles 23:40, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

List of Beelzebub characters

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This is a list of characters who seem to have no independent notability whatsoever. It's all summary, original research, and primary sources, though I'm not calling it 'cruft' since that apparently is a bad word. I could live with a redirect, but this should not be a free-standing article. Drmies (talk) 18:48, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
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 * Keep Appropriate spin-out list for a manga series with a lot of characters. While the list could use some cleanup, that is not a reason to delete a character list. —Farix (t &#124; c) 21:30, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep and cleanup. Notable media franchises are granted a list of characters, but that doesn't mean they need to be this long. A combination of appropriate trimming and secondary sourcing will fix these problems, and if it somehow failed to do so, a merge would be preferable per WP:ATD.  Since the various facts appear to be sourced to primary sources, WP:V is met so there is no real justification for an outright deletion vs. a merge in the unlikely event that it was demonstrated that this was not an appropriate standalone list. Jclemens (talk) 05:18, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Every notable series has a character list. You don't need references to prove every single thing on the list is notable either.   D r e a m Focus  06:04, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
 * No Stance, since I am the noob who has been writing this cruft all these months, and am therefore biased. I will only say that: other manga series have longer character lists and separate pages for protagonists, like One Piece and Code Geass (and incidentally, the only reason this list is long is precisely because I have deemed this series not notable enough to have separate pages for important characters); for manga, I may be missing something since I'm not much of a Wikipedian, but primary sources are all that is available (it is not a full-fledged franchise yet, so there are no secondary sources like author interviews and expert reviews); I tried hard to be neutral and not do any original research, but feel free to edit out all snippets that may have escaped; and all character lists I know summarise the characters' journeys through the series (Code Geass and Fullmetal Alchemist being examples), otherwise a list would be only a compilation of physical attributes and personality traits. Given that, meet a decision as you see fit; I'm not qualified to opine on Wikipedia matters. I have copied out the text and can incorporate it to specialised manga wikis like Wikia, although I obviously prefer Wikipedia because of its superior layout and lack of advertisements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.92.43.122 (talk) 19:26, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
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