Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Bengali songs recorded by Runa Laila (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 21:42, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

List of Bengali songs recorded by Runa Laila
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Fails WP:NLIST. Note that WP:NOTDATABASE applies. Few, if any, tracks pass WP:NMUSIC. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 10:06, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Music, Lists,  and Bangladesh. Shellwood (talk) 11:24, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete There are compelling policy-based reasons that this list does not belong in Wikipedia, which does not aim to be a list of everything, but to be a high-quality encyclopedia. That means not just listing songs in a discography, but providing prose analysis of them, summarizing what reliable sources say about their recording, reception, significance, and influence.
 * This list also fails the most common notability guideline for lists, because no independent reliable source has discussed the Bengali songs recorded by Runa Laila as a group. And it fails the three purposes of lists. Without analysis, the list does not convey encyclopedic information. Out of the roughly 950 songs, none has a Wikipedia article, and there's no evidence that any of them are notable, so the list does not allow the reader to navigate among them. If it is intended as a development list, it should be in user space, not article space.
 * Merge is inappropriate because the source for 97% of the songs is "because editor Abbasulu says so". Only about 3% of the songs cite any source, the sources don't always support all of the content where cited, and the sources aren't always reliable (IMDb, ringostrack.com, Amazon). --Worldbruce (talk) 15:45, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde (Talk) 16:59, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - the listing is nowhere an "indiscriminate collection of information". Could only be relevant if WP decided that no list of recorded songs could have a place here. Similar articles do exist with even poorer sourcing. Otherwise it just needs expansion and proper sourcing, not deletion. Most of the films already have enough references and the songs may be traced upon searching on the web. Abbasulu (talk) 17:46, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Vast list with no effective references. References based on the film are taken from apple streaming. . There is a not a single WP:SECONDARY source that confirms a single song is notable. There is nothing. It is a structured list that is effectively unsourced, copied and pasted from Wikipedia, discogs and clickbait sites.Fails WP:NLIST, WP:SIGCOV and WP:DEL14.   scope_creep Talk  12:29, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I closed this discussion as "no consensus", with the following closure statement. I believe this statement still applies, but rather than waste community time there just to reopen these, I'm relisting it. I'm copying my closure statement as I feel the commentary is relevant. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:59, 2 February 2023 (UTC) "This is one of several AfDs I have now read where virtually identical !votes have been posted by multiple parties that leave the discussion evenly divided. Those advocating deletion correctly argue that NLIST needs to be met; those arguing to keep correctly argue that discographies of notable artists have generally been treated as notable, and that individual items don't have to be notable for a list to have a Wikipedia article, so NMUSIC is generally not relevant. I don't see how repeating this discussion any number of times is a productive exercise; we clearly need to have a wider discussion about what criteria we use to evaluate the notability of such discographies, and probably use a few bundled nominations to make the discussion more efficient. As such I'm closing those nominations in today's log that are clearly divided on this basis with this identical statement, which seems fitting given the identical discussions. Vanamonde (Talk) 22:22, 1 February 2023 (UTC)"
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete - other than the notability concerns, also doesn't come close to passing WP:VERIFY. Onel 5969  TT me 20:39, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs, Lists,  and Bangladesh.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:07, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - a list that completely violates WP:V, with no WP:RS presented by anyone and no evidence of sources discussing this topic at length Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:28, 9 February 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.