Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Bleach story arcs


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was  d elete. - Mailer Diablo 09:50, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

List of Bleach story arcs

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This is an attempt at creating a list of the story arcs in the Bleach (manga) franchise. However, it is harmful to for several reasons:
 * Firstly, the "arcs" of the Bleach storyline are very ill-defined and unattributable, making this page an exercise in original research.
 * Secondly, this page is utterly redundant to the existing pages List of Bleach manga chapters and List of Bleach episodes.
 * Thirdly, it is an attempt at a plot summary, which has been repeatedly ruled against on Talk:Bleach (manga) by the subject editors because it is not only absolutely unnecessary and engenders policy violation, but that it actually takes less time to find the manga online than it does to read a prose summary of the events.
 * Fourthly and finally, it will reduce our ability to properly cover Bleach on Wikipedia by splitting the coverage across an even wider array of pages, resulting in more confusion for readers and more work for editors attempting to bring the pages into line with policy and consistency with each other.

Therefore, I believe that it should be deleted. --tjstrf talk 08:35, 1 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment, I just want to head people off at the pass. Please do not just simply cite WP:NOT#IINFO point 7 and vote.  This is article is obviously meant as an aspect of the larger Bleach (manga) subject, so it does not instantly qualify for deletion under this clause.  That said, please review the conversation here: Talk:Bleach (manga).  The contributors to the Bleach series of articles (myself included) have thusfar avoided the need for plot details, and when asked, no one could state a strong reason for including any at this point in time.  –Gunslinger47 08:55, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - A few reasons.
 * So far, consensus seems to be in favour of not having a comprehensive summary.
 * Plot summaries are tricky things. Anyone who's read the series doesn't need it, anyone who doesn't care about the series doesn't need it, and anyone who wants to know it would, in the case of Bleach, probably find it easier to read the manga or watch the anime themselves, rather than read a bunch of prose. It's also more satisfying and much easier to understand the story when you see it for yourself.
 * The series is available in four different ways: Japanese manga, which is released weekly and scanslations are available; English manga, which volumes are released every couple of months; Japanese anime, which is again released weekly and fansubs are available; or English anime, which airs weekly. Which plot should we follow? They're all at VERY different places in the storyline. And if we did follow one specific storyline, what about the differences between the anime and the manga, i.e. the Bount arc?
 * A less solid reason, but since the story is ongoing and shows no signs of stopping, I feel that, especially since the plot is already available between other pages about the Bleach universe, and being updated weekly with the new Japanese chapters' information, a plot page would be extremely unwieldy and, as stated by tjstrf, redundant, causing even more hassle to keep all the pages consistent.
 * Nique talk 15:38, 1 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete In essence a five-entry list. So short as to be unnecessary. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 23:43, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. // Decaimiento Poético  23:47, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Again, redundant. And I doubt Average Joe #27 would care about plot summaries. Jezebel Parks 01:41, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete Redundant list. If it's kept it will be extremely hard to keep it up to date. Then you have to summarize both the anime and manga. It's just going to be a load of hassle from the bleach editors. As well as consensus was reached against plot summaries. --Malevious Userpage •Talk Page• Contributions 03:26, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - content duplicated in List of Bleach episodes and List of Bleach chapters, and with more content on those pages. --Pentasyllabic 03:49, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as per Pentasyllabic. I never knew the summaries on the episode list had expanded so greatly. –Gunslinger47 00:28, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - List of Bleach episodes offers episode summaries grouped by story arcs so this page would be redundant--88wolfmaster 00:12, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Horribly redundant with List of Bleach episodes. There aren't even enough arcs to merit such a page. Suitable amounts would be like that present in List of Naruto story arcs. Sephiroth BCR 03:29, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, this page's content by default violates WP:NOR, because the arcs are not clearly defined. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 12:26, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.