Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Camila Cabello live performances


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The result was delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 02:52, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

List of Camila Cabello live performances

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Per WP:NTOURS this is a summarisation of many other articles - the concert pages and wikipedia is not a indiscriminate list of information. Much of the information on this page is covered/duplicated elsewhere or just generally doesn't meet the notability standard for inclusion like this. It is also highly unlikely that users would know to search for this page. → Lil- ℧niquԐ1 - ( Talk ) - 16:19, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  → Lil- ℧niquԐ1 - ( Talk ) - 16:19, 16 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete - per some sort of intersection of the spirit of NTOURS, INDISCRIMINATE, and “we’re an encyclopedia, not a fansite tracking an artists every public move”. (The article was a created by an editor with about 99% of their edits being related to this musician, and their user name is even an allusion to the artist, making it all the more clear that this is a “super-fan creating a shrine to a musician” type endeavor.)  Sergecross73   msg me  19:03, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete This content can be summarized in prose in the subject's article without harm. All of the previous comments also apply. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:40, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 21:53, 16 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete Seems more fancruft than anything else, tracking every move with no neccesity. Most of those live performances could be included in songs, tours and albums respective articles. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:30, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 08:11, 20 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment, nominator's reason for deletion is that this list doesn't meet WP:NTOURS, and? this is a list, the relevant guideline is WP:LISTN ie. are there sources that discuss this group/partial group of entries/ does the list "fulfill recognized informational, navigation, or development purposes"?, not whether each tour has received significant independent coverage. Coolabahapple (talk) 08:52, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment whilst the topics of the list might have received coverage from reliable sources but that is already noted on their individual pages or the artists' bio page. Therefore this renders this list indiscriminate and ultimately doesn't explain why this needs to be in existence when it duplicates information already listed elsewhere. Additionally this level of detail could consitute WP:FANCRUFT → Lil- ℧niquԐ<b style="color:#126180">1</b> <small style="color:#1CA9C9">- ( Talk ) - 12:33, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I believe I was the one who originally tied NTOURS to this, in another discussion. I wasn’t trying to directly cite NTOURS, just tried to liken it’s general sentiment with handling such an article, of which there’s isn’t much of a direct precedent for. NTOURS says that we should only have standalone tour articles when there is significant coverage on its conception, creation, reception, etc. Substantial content, not just a set list and a venue list, and a couple sources that say “Hey, artist X announced the Y tour”. My point was that this list resembles more of the latter than the former, which is not okay if it were strictly a tour article. If you don’t agree, that’s fine, but there’s plenty of relevant WP:NOT issues here as well, as previously mentioned. Sergecross73   msg me  03:34, 22 May 2020 (UTC)


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