Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Catholic American entertainers


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete --Steve (Stephen)talk 09:19, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

List of Catholic American entertainers

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Both Category:Roman Catholic entertainers and List of Canadian Roman Catholic entertainers were deleted as instances of overcategorization where a non-notable intersection exists. In this case, the relationship between an actor's or entertainer's religion and their acting/entertaining. Bulldog123 14:35, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- I agree, this is a non-notable intersection. Ten Pound Hammer  • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 05:21, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Since we have topics such as List of Jewish actors and actresses which are found to be acceptable material, the precedence for linking the relationship between an actor's or entertainer's religion and their acting/entertaining is founded.  We should either get rid of them all, or we must avoid prejudice and hypocrisy and keep this list also.  --Interesdom 13:28, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * There is no proof supporting your statement that the Jewish article "is found to be acceptable material." We don't know yet. It was never discussed. You shouldn't use another wikipedia article as justification for keeping this one. First, we don't do mass nominations. If we did, somebody would definitely complain about it and likely put "Keep. Each list needs to be discussed for it's own unique characteristics." The Jewish list has a unique characteristic because Jewish is also an ethnic denomination, while Catholic isn't. Avoid WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS arguments. If you delete precedents, others that are similar will follow. Hence why List of Canadian Roman Catholic entertainers was deleted, I nominated this. There is absolutely NO reason the Americans should be treated more favorably than the Canadians. Bulldog123 14:34, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * When it comes to ethnic/religious type categories, I think WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS has to be tempered by WP:BIAS so that we do not single out one group for differential treatment. That said, I think that it may be time to get rid of all such categories and lists, categorization of people by WP's versions of race, ethnicity, and religion seems to be trivial and hence not encyclopedic. Carlossuarez46 18:43, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Besides, wouldn't a more apt WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS comparison have been with List of Jewish American entertainers?  I agree with the WP:BIAS concern raised by Carlossuarez46.  I think it would be wise (if this article gets deleted) to go and ferret out all the similar articles and tag them as well.  This is one case where an attempt an uniform precedent enforcement should be made.  In fact, would this be an appropriate time to list them all for AfD, to ensure uniform results?  CharacterZero  |  Speak  00:15, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I would not advise nominating List of Jewish American entertainers just yet. It is seen as an American-peoples list, and likely it will not be deleted unless all other lists of Americans are nominated. If we want to get rid of equivalent ridiculous lists more quickly and with less hassle, I've already nominated List of Libertarian musicians and its cousins. Somebody should look for other strange ethnicity divisions that will likely go down without much debate. Some really unusual Jewish lists seem to exist, for example List of Jewish Fellows of the British Academy, List of Jewish Fellows of the Royal Society, and List of Jewish recipients of the National Medal of Science. To give a perspective, there's no List of recipients of the Nationality Medal of Science or List of Fellows of the Royal Society. I also found these brief, completely unnecessary prebysterian lists: List of notable American Presbyterians, List of notable English Presbyterians, and List of notable Irish Presbyterians. Not sure what to make of those. Can someone make a list of potential nominees here? Bulldog123 04:30, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Nominated List of Hindu sportspeople too. Bulldog123 04:55, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom & per precedent. Carlossuarez46 18:43, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, and nominate similar lists while you're at it. That should appease the WAXers. Adrian   M. H.  21:21, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. - Jeeny Talk 03:08, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.