Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Christian apologetic works


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The result was Withdrawn by nominator. I will work to cleanup article per WP:SAL. Novaseminary (talk) 19:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

List of Christian apologetic works

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This seems to fail WP:SAL and WP:NOTDIR, and per the nom in the first AfD. Novaseminary (talk) 05:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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 * Keep or Merge with Christian apologetics. Christian apologetics is a large field.  There is already a large list in the main article.  I would guess this has been forked off to keep its size within limits.  However this is a list of books, not a list of external links.  If kept, it might be renamed Bibliography of Christian apologetics.  I note that the "Scientific apologetics" section has a disputed tag.  It may well be that the conclusions of the books aare disputed by many people, but it can hardly be disputed that the books exist and are on the subject.  However, "Evolution apologetics" might be a better title.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:26, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. Merging this with Christian apologetics has one obvious problem: this is a large list, and that is a large article.  There's easily enough material for two articles here, and I'd rather see Christian apologetics merged and pointed here if there is any non-duplication.  This is a list of books by notable authors; most of the books themselves are notable enough to support articles even if those articles are yet to be written.  And if there are non-notable entries, that's a matter of editing that does not call for deletion.  Seems a reasonable split and I'm unclear as to how this is supposed to violate the list formatting manual of style, or why that's a deletion matter.  The topic is specific enough to not be a directory even if articles like these are as useful to editors as to readers.  If people want to delete it, save it at WP:Christianity first. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 04:45, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment I would support redirecting this to the further reading section (though that section needs major work) as an alternative to deletion. The there there also highlight how this list is a CFORK as it is now. I would also be fine repurposing this as a list of WP articles of apologetic works. That would be consistent with this same title, but not the current article. Novaseminary (talk) 16:45, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. It has already been explained that WP:SAL is a style guide, not a reason for deletion, and I don't see how any of the criteria of WP:NOTDIR remotely apply to this article. Maybe the nominator could let us know which criterion he or she had in mind? And, if this is a content fork, it is a perfectly valid summary style fork: if anything Christian apologetics should be culled rather than this article be deleted. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:59, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
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