Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Cohen crime family members


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to Los Angeles crime family (tentatively, in any case). The consensus is clear that this should not be a standalone article, and as it appears at this time that Cohen crime family is headed for a merge result as well, it would not make sense to do the work twice. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:48, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

List of Cohen crime family members

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Totally unsourced, and no sources appear to exist to indicate that such a "crime family" ever existed. These people certainly existed, but their membership in a supposed "crime family" is at best dubious. Note that the main article Cohen crime family has been nominated for deletion on the same grounds at Articles for deletion/Cohen crime family Coretheapple (talk) 16:06, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people, Crime, California,  and Nevada.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 17:17, 14 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge into Cohen crime family, both created by User:HomG. Same crime family, except the list has no sources at all. — Maile (talk) 00:02, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Two different Merge targets suggested, one of which, Cohen crime family, is also at AFD. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 20:07, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge into Los Angeles crime family under the section about Jack Dragna. This so-called family appears to have arisen as a result of a falling out between Dragna and Mickey Cohen when Bugsy Siegel was killed. Also, both Siegel and Cohen were working for the New York mafia, so their West Coast operations is more like a branch office. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 22:15, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Comment While I don't think this should be kept per WP:REDUNDANTFORK, the nomination should have waited till the outcome of Articles for deletion/Cohen crime family, since a 3rd merge/redirect target has been identified there at Mickey Cohen. Greater clarity about what to do here will be obtained once that discussion closes.  Stony Brook  babble 15:51, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
 * True, but my feeling was that this article warranted deletion on its own lack of merits. Coretheapple (talk) 12:52, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Point well taken. However, in the interest of preserving the flow of information here, a delete would prevent this from being housed in Category:Lists of criminals, Category:Organized crime members by organization and Category:Organized crime-related lists.  Stony Brook  babble 01:24, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Nor should it be, as this was an arbitrary list concocted by Wikipedia editors without any basis in sourcing. Coretheapple (talk) 13:59, 24 September 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.