Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Coronation Street characters (1967)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. No prejudice towards a merge discussion. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:57, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

List of Coronation Street characters (1967)

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This article is far too short on its own. I mean, there is only two characters listed here, and thats it. I really don't see why this list should even exist, nor do I think we couldn't just list every single character in the Lists of characters article. Editor E  at ma talk page up, scotty! 01:49, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Note - I'm merging here the discussions for similar articles that were nominated at the same time by the same user: Diego Moya (talk) 11:32, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * List of Coronation Street characters (1967)
 * List of Coronation Street characters (1970)
 * List of Coronation Street characters (1975)
 * List of Coronation Street characters (1976)
 * List of Coronation Street characters (1977)


 * Delete all (I'm not going to bother to repeat for the remaining lists). List of Coronation Street characters is already ordered by when the characters first appeared. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:47, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 12:58, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 12:59, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 13:49, 14 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment I have notified WikiProject Coronation Street and WikiProject Fictional Characters of this debate. – anemone projectors – 09:52, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge. 1) I think this would have been best handled under a single nomination, since five similar articles have been nominated for deletion. 2) I don't think it's right to delete them just because there aren't many characters listed. I think it's possible to improve on them, but also they could probably be merged with adjoining years. I don't understand the comment "nor do I think we couldn't just list every single character in the Lists of characters article", and as for Clarityfiend's comment that List of Coronation Street characters is in chronological order, that only lists the present characters, and List of past Coronation Street characters is in alphabetical order. – anemone projectors – 09:52, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I've merged all discussions per WP:MULTI, closing the others as non-admin procedural closes, to facilitate discussion and because all nominations are related. Diego Moya (talk) 11:38, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh thanks for doing that. – anemone projectors – 13:12, 16 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep or merge. I agree with AP. Some of these lists could be merged together, like the List of Emmerdale Farm characters (1972–73). Although I reckon they could all be improved. I have some free time and some resources that might help, so I could take one of the lists and see what I can do with it. The purpose of these lists is to stop poorly sourced and developed articles from being created too soon. We can build up the character's entry in the list first, then when there's enough info, we can split them off. We want less of this and more of this. - JuneGloom    Talk  12:03, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I've had a go at improving List of Coronation Street characters (1975). - JuneGloom    Talk  17:17, 16 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment to the nominator - Don't forget to re-tag the articles you've added to this one. Some of them are still on the Bad AFD list. Are there others that should be here as well? UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 15:58, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I've updated the links in the articles to point to this AFD. I don't think there are others because I found these from article alerts in the WikiProjects and they were the only ones. – anemone projectors – 19:24, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep or Merge: I think that there is potential for something here. Me and a fellow editor have put some work in and what we have found is that despite the characters being written and developed in the 60's/70's - there is information and signs of improvement. All that is needed here is work. So we can certainly offer help with that and keep improving. If certain years are not as notable or there is not enough information recovered at this time they can always be merged to form a grouped list as suggested by others here. Rain  the 1  22:08, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 00:42, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar   &middot;   &middot;  03:12, 30 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Merge - No reason for each of these lists to exist on their own. Merge into either article on the show itself or a master list of characters. Caffeyw (talk) 08:54, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Don't you think it would be more sensible to merge them with adjoining years? What about the lists that have already gone through improvements since this AFD started? – anemone projectors – 12:26, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * That would make more sense wouldn't it. Despite me and JuneGloom07 perfectly demonstrating all that is needed is a bit of work - no one cares. Throw away comments about merging here, there and everywhere. Unfair to ignore the potential. Rain  the 1  19:24, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge all into one or into main article of Coronation Street. Technical 13 (talk) 18:33, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The point of these lists is that they are chronological, so merging these articles nominated here into one would corrupt the chronological order. If merged, it should be with adjacent years, not all int one. Merging them into the main Coronation Street page makes no sense either because the chronological character lists exist for other years and there is no place in that article for character descriptions. Doing this would made the main article way too cluttered. Did you even look at the Coronation Street page? Where in that article would you suggest putting all the characters from 1967, 1970, 1975, 1976 and 1977? – anemone projectors – 11:10, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Merging into the Coronation Street article? Unlikely. Please keep comments serious and avoid making jokes. Rain  the 1  20:05, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep' but consider merging adjacent years; for a series as major as this, a little duplication that would be helpful to the reader seems to make sense. The relevant guideline is NOT PAPER. &#39;DGG (at NYPL) (talk) 18:14, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - looks like a legitimate content fork. Coronation Street is for casual (eg: non UK) readers. List of Coronation Street characters is for people coming into regular watching of the soap now and wanting to catch up. The "by year" articles are for current and former watchers of it who are trying to remember old characters. All are or can be reliably sourced, and all have a place on the encyclopedia. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   14:46, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
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