Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Crown albums in The Penguin Guide to Jazz


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 00:01, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

List of Crown albums in The Penguin Guide to Jazz

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Copyright issues, looks identical to the situation with Articles for deletion/List of Core Collection albums in The Penguin Guide to Jazz Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 21:37, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * This could be a speedy delete as it's the same issue (involving the same book) in the AfD discussion that Martijn Hoekstra mentioned. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 23:07, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not comfortable with speedy deletion here. Seeing that the last AfD was controversial, I don't dare to say with absolute confidence that speedy deletion on this article will be completely uncontroversial. None of the CSD criteria really fit (note that it is not unambiguous copyvio as needed for G12, or there wouldn't have been so much discussion on the last AfD), I don't think it can be shoehorned into G6 either. So it would need a prime directive speedy deletion if speedied at all. This issue isn't urgent enough to throw away the process on my own believe that the exact same situation applies. I could have gone PROD though, and notified those that commented on the other AfD, but with all that attached, it's no more of a lightweight process than AfD is. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 09:39, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:CP is generally routine, although there is a week's delay . :) That's where copyright concerns go that are not "unambiguous". Flagging it for copyvio could have taken it through that avenue. I imagine we still could, if others would prefer, but assuming that we'll go this way, I'll note that my opinion is not changed. I think this probably falls on the side that we need to delete it for copyright concerns, but still appreciate the massive amount of work that went into it. It won't go to waste; I've created two articles so far off of the redlinks, which were transferred to WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/List of notable albums. We will fill in missing notable albums of jazz, courtesy of this. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:08, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: As much as I regret to see either article deleted, it is the same case. I don't see how it would be possible to keep one and not the other.  In hindsight, both of the articles should have been included in the earlier nomination, as the exact same issue applied to both. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 15:25, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:JAZZ notified. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 23:18, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:59, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 02:00, 26 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete It's the exact same issue as found in Articles for deletion/List of Core Collection albums in The Penguin Guide to Jazz: completely listing the elements of a creative list violates the list makers copyright. This isn't a routine mechanical listing that can be recreated independently.&mdash;Kww(talk) 10:44, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete the issue here for me is independent coverage in reliable sources. There doesn't appear to be any and I'm deeply skeptical that any is likely to exist. If new sources are added to the article, ping my talk page and I'll take another look. Stuartyeates (talk) 04:51, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
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