Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Dynasty Warriors characters


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The result was delete. Yamamoto Ichiro (talk) 03:08, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

List of Dynasty Warriors characters

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This page seems like a major WP:NOTWIKIA violation. For one, in the Dynasty Warriors series, most, if not all, characters are strongly based on historical figures in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms novel. Also, to add more confusion, these fictional characters aren't exclusive to the Dynasty Warriors video game series: They are also present in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms video game series. In addition, this entire list has a fine line between being a character list and a large historical figure page. Almost every section has a hatnote referring the reader to the character's biographical-based person. Since there really is no way to put a definite distinction between the fictional and non-fictional figures here, this page serves to confuse and mislead on an encyclopedia and really only belongs on a Dynasty Warriors-related Wikia-like site. Steel1943 (talk) 21:58, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Is this different from its neighboring articles, List of Samurai Warriors characters and List of Warriors Orochi characters? czar  16:17, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
 * In regards to the characters representing historical characters that already have articles as deceased biographical figures, I'm not sure about List of Samurai Warriors characters. However, List of Warriors Orochi characters contains a hybrid of characters from the Dynasty Warriors video game series and the Samurai Warriors series. (Interesting: In the process of this, I found out that the Samuari Warriors series doesn't have an article when it probably should: see Samurai Warriors (series). Yeah, there's a character list article for a series that doesn't have an article itself.) Steel1943  (talk) 23:32, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
 * However, in the current state of List of Warriors Orochi characters, it looks like that list only includes characters that are exclusive to that series in the section that is not a table. (Which, by the way, doesn't have a series article either: see Warriors Orochi (series).) Steel1943  (talk) 23:34, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Are there secondary sources for the independent notability of any of the three lists? czar  23:35, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
 * At this point, I would say "no" to all three of them. (I'm saying this in regards to List of Samurai Warriors characters assuming that the characters in that series are based on historical biographical figures as well.) However, the series-exclusive content at List of Warriors Orochi characters could probably be moved to a page regarding the Warriors Orochi series, if that was ever created, but probably not since it seems the only character exclusive to that series who is not based on a historical biographical figure is Orochi and some characters from Musou Orochi Z and Warriors Orochi 3. Steel1943  (talk) 23:40, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:38, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:38, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
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 * Weak Delete mainly because of the already noted confusion that can occur between the Dynasty Warriors characters and their historical counterparts. Although later entries in the game series have gotten better about depicting the characters accurately, the game still takes quite a few liberties. If there was a way to better separate game from history I would be in favor of keeping the article, but I don't think this article itself could meet the game article requirements anyway. ZettaComposer (talk) 17:29, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, I can confirm that Samurai Warriors (the first one anyway) is based off the Sengoku period in Japan much like how Dynasty Warriors is based off the Late Han and Three Kingdoms periods in China. Samurai Warriors is, in a way, a spinoff of the success of Dynasty Warriors and are very similar games. The consensus made on this article would most likely apply to the Samurai Warriors Characters article as well. I'm not certain about Warriors Orochi but I think that is a fictional crossover of Dynasty and Samurai Warriors. ZettaComposer (talk) 17:38, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SST flyer 00:06, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete, per WP:VGSCOPE. A long, long list of in-game characters without any reliable sources mentioning them or discussing the characters fails WP:GNG. Just because these characters are based upon ancient novels does not mean they're automatically notable. soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 09:23, 12 April 2016 (UTC)


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