Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Eurasians


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. I recognize there are some new users commenting, but based on the issues of definability of the list, the deletion argument is convincing.  MBisanz  talk 07:40, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

List of Eurasians

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I am nominating this article for deletion. While looking at the ‘List of Afro-Asians’ (which I planned to start again after finding it was  deleted) I came across various interesting arguments which led that article’s deletion. I feel that it pertains to this list as well.

I too believe that the ‘List of Eurasians’ is based on a US view of the term, and not a worldly view. Asia contains over half of the world's population with countries as ethnically diverse as Russia, China, India and Israel - the article does not make clear which of these it refers to. In Britain the term Asian usually refers to people from around the Indian subcontinent. The article also does not make clear what definition of European is being used. Like the argument towards ‘List of Afro-Asians,’ I too do not really think the article of ‘List of Eurasians’ is necessary without clearly defined parameters, geographical locations, and required race percentages.

According to one argument: ‘On a list like this, there will always be some individuals added simply because of the way they look, an obvious problem.’ Too, I believe it seems like many are listed because of ‘assumed’ ethnicity, or what they look like, etc. That runs the risk of creating a biased 'article' or list such as this.

Fails WP:BIAS for only considering what United States citizens consider "Asian" and "European". For instance, a person who is a black, dark-skinned, African and grows up in Europe, and who also has a parent from China or Japan, or Vietnam: Can this individual be considered an ‘Eurasian’? It’s not made clear.

The US is not the world; and many things will be perceived differently by many individuals across the globe. HeiRenXuesheng (talk) 06:14, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Eurasia is Europe and Asia, so everyone from Europe or Asia is Eurasian. 76.66.196.218 (talk) 06:33, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete We have an article on Eurasia which states it contains 71% of the world's population. Even if we restrict the list to notable individuals, it would be too long to maintain and their geographical location (being in Eurasia) will have little to do with their notability. - Mgm|(talk) 11:36, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 *  Delete . We wouldn't tolerate a List of Europeans or a List of Asians, and this is even less discriminate.— S Marshall   Talk / Cont  17:02, 21 April 2009 (UTC) (!vote struck on reading Mandsford's comment, I'm now reserving judgment)
 * Comment While I am certainly not voting to keep this article, I think that it's being misunderstood-- primarily because of the author's clumsy choice of a title. As noted above, Eurasian can mean someone from Europe or Asia, true.  The author's misuse of the word "Eurasian", in this case, is someone whose ancestry is from both Europe and Asia-- Mom's from Japan, Dad's from Italy; or so-and-so is an Irish-Indonesian.  It is sourced (92 cites) -- but questionable (Keanu Reaves is on here because he's "½ Hawaiian-Chinese, ½ British").  I see all sorts of problems with this one, notwithstanding that we don't call someone a "Eurasian".  Mandsford (talk) 20:13, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm. That raises a question about the status of another article: Eurasian (mixed ancestry). Ignoring that for the moment, we could theoretically re-title this to something more appropriate, delete the questionable items and add certain important missing entries (e.g. off the top of my head, Kate Beckinsale and Stephanie Chaves-Jacobsen).  But I can't for the life of me think of an appropriate name; suggestions welcome.  And would we be better served with a category?— S Marshall   Talk / Cont  20:58, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep This definition of Eurasian is discussed in the article Eurasian (mixed ancestry), it does not include all people from Asia or Europe, just those people of mixed ancestry. The use of the term is different from that of Eurasia (the supercontinent), which is acknowledged in most dictionaries. It is a term with a history of use with variations of definition, but it is a term some people have used to describe themselves. Simply because a term has some ambiguity to doesn't mean the article should be deleted. If you really follow that policy then you'll end up deleting all of Wikipedia. Tweisbach (talk) 06:35, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I don't see where it states who can be designated as 'Eurasian'. The article just states that a Eurasian who has mixed ancestry from Europe and Asian. As I asked above, woud an individual who is part-African/part-Chinese, born and raised in Europe be considered Eurasian? Moreover, would a full-blood Vietnamese who is born and raised in France be considered a Eurasian? The List of Afro-Asians was seemingly deleted because of this same argument (or maybe it was deleted because of bad faith...i.e. racist individuals who didn't want to have a black/Asian article or list on Wikipedia). However, many of the individuals on the list (List of Eurasians), as stated by posters above, are assumed to be a certain ethnicity; this harkens to the US 'one drop' rule. Even the article from which this list spawns from is taken from a US point of view. --HeiRenXuesheng (talk) 01:53, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
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