Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of FC Barcelona legends


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  — fetch ·  comms   17:54, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

List of FC Barcelona legends

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Albeit I am the 'principal editor' on this article, I will nonetheless nominate it for deletion to see whether this list is found interesting/notable/whatever-criteria-lists-use enough to warrant inclusion in wikipedia. My main reason for keeping it was the different figures given on this compared with List of FC Barcelona players, but I'm not sure those figures are really that interesting. Sandman888 (talk) Latest FLC 11:59, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:17, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - Copyright?. It's quite hard work to find the information in the article that this is based on a list produced by Barcelona and it's not just your POV. So, it's not POV (which is how it first seems) but is that list copyright? We've had similar problems before - see Articles for deletion/100 Players Who Shook the Kop --Dweller (talk) 12:30, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - Name? The club seems to call them "Legendary Players", not "legends", so if this is going to stay, it probably needs to be moved to List of FC Barcelona Legendary Players. --Dweller (talk) 12:34, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - Non-encyclopedic? Is there any explanatory text anywhere about how these players have been selected? Or is it just the editor of the website listing 50 legendary players (and he may one day, at a whim, discard one for a new one? - In which case this probably isn't encyclopedic. --Dweller (talk) 12:34, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * That last point was extensively discussed here. Essentially there is nothing to indicate that the list on Barcelona's website is anything other than a list of famous players that the website editor felt like profiling, somewhat akin to this -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:43, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, that's useful, thanks. The commentary there says that Eto'o was added to the list during a period of time, which means someone else dropped out. I'd suggest it's not very encyclopedic then. --Dweller (talk) 13:12, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I think that's true. Never thought of that before. Sandman888 (talk) Latest FLC 14:52, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment As someone who has an interest in the outcome of this, I will recuse from explicitly taking a position. However, Deleting because all sources are unreliable would be completely different to deleting because the basis of the article is non-notable. --WFC-- 15:46, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * There has been several instances of lists passing FLC even though they were not remotely notable. "List of Nobel Prize winners from Princeton" springs to mind. A pure synthesis of two individually "notable" lists. The fact of the matter is that lists operate apart from the notability-guideline required of articles and that's very confusing. See a long-winded discussion here Wikipedia_talk:Stand-alone_lists Sandman888 (talk) Latest FLC 16:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - a List of FC Barcelona players suffices. GiantSnowman 18:38, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:51, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge whilst the list is well-referenced, it may be easiest if players that are noted as 'legends' are somehow marked in the main Barcelona list, rather than have two lists? Eldumpo (talk) 14:53, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think it should be indicated if it's un-encyclopedic. If it is unencyclopedic it shd be removed altogether, if not, it should be kept. Sandman888 (talk) Latest FAC 15:45, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Been pondering this a while. Unencyclopedic POV made up by website editor on whim - as evidenced by Eto'o being added and someone else being discarded. --Dweller (talk) 06:51, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.