Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of FIFA Confederations Cup hat-tricks


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The result was Snow Keep. (non-admin closure) – Davey 2010 Talk 23:54, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

List of FIFA Confederations Cup hat-tricks

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Note that it is a relisting after it was requested that articles were re-bundled from Articles for deletion/List of Japan national football team hat-tricks.

A hat-trick is a semi-common occurrence in football which while notable in the context of regular news reporting, is not an outstanding achievement in and of itself. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information - lists need to have some justification to their existence beyond the collection of statistics. Notable hat-tricks will be described in player, team or where relevant match articles. Though both the Confederations Cup and Copa America are infrequent and important tournaments, we already comfortably document the goals, statistics and events of these competitions - we have articles like Copa América records and statistics and FIFA Confederations Cup records. The hat-trick lists simply repackage goals that are listed elsewhere on Wikipedia, in a slightly arbitrary way.

It's important to note that, by and large, these lists do not exist outside of Wikipedia: they have been collated together from football results databases. This is evidence, I think, of the indiscriminate and unnecessary nature of these pages, which also makes them border on being original research. A list of hat-tricks in these tournaments is simply unnecessary. Super Nintendo Chalmers (talk) 08:45, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related page:

Super Nintendo Chalmers (talk) 08:45, 18 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Please also note the following related discussions:
 * Articles for deletion/List of Algerian Ligue Professionnelle 1 hat-tricks
 * Articles for deletion/List of Japan national football team hat-tricks (2nd nomination)
 * Articles for deletion/List of UEFA Champions League hat-tricks
 * Articles for deletion/List of Cristiano Ronaldo hat-tricks
 * Super Nintendo Chalmers (talk) 08:54, 18 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Note, there is a discussion about this issue at WP:FOOTY. The nominating user has relisted all of these articles without first obtaining any consensus that these articles should be deleted. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 09:26, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Isn't that the point of a deletion discussion? --Super Nintendo Chalmers (talk) 10:29, 18 September 2015 (UTC)


 * keep - List of Copa América hat-tricks as a worthwhile fork from Copa América records and statistics due to the length of the list, but merge List of FIFA Confederations Cup hat-tricks with FIFA Confederations Cup records as simply not enough hat tricks have been scored to warrant a separate article. Fenix down (talk) 09:31, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
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 * Keep Notable lists of notable topics, per the previous AfD and all the ones directly beneath this one.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 18:56, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep notable list of notable events, this is becoming disruptive. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:48, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - there seems to be consensus here that lists of hat-tricks in top-level international competitions are notable. GiantSnowman 16:21, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep This seems like a ridiculous nomination. Hat-tricks are usually notable events, especially in professional leagues. Often when one occurs, reference is made to previous records (i.e. last hat-trick by that player / team / against that opposition, etc.). That in itself suggests maintaining an article with the hat-trick records in a league has encyclopedic value. --   R45    talk! 15:57, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Per above clearly notable list .Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 14:14, 23 September 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.