Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of FIFA World Cup awarded penalties


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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:34, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

List of FIFA World Cup awarded penalties

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A list of penalties is not inherently notable and there is no evidence it meets WP:GNG. It is mainly WP:FANCRUFT. Pretty much all the sources are WP:ROUTINE match reports, none discuss this list as a concept implying that it is not notable. Penalties are a fairly routine and common part of football, they might not happen every match but there is nothing special about a penalty in a football game. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 22:53, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Football and Lists. Shellwood (talk) 22:57, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Leaning keep. The test here is not how common a thing is, WP:NLIST directs us to consider if the topic is notable as a group. For example: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soccer/news/most-penalties-one-team-world-cup-argentina-lionel-messi/r3qnxmtxb7wpe5lqdx5eq8dy suggests it is. CT55555 (talk) 00:06, 16 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. This does not seem to be a notable list type of article. Natg 19 (talk) 00:42, 16 December 2022 (UTC)


 * There are similar Wikipages with lists of all own goals, red cards, hat-tricks, penalty shot-outs in the FIFA World Cup history. What's so uncommon or special about own goal or red card? Is it not a part of football routine? Also, official reports (especially old ones) not often contains information about unrealized penalties (missed or saved). Hyperion82 (talk) 02:42, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:OSE. Also, would support deleting own goals one, probably red card one too. Penalty shoot outs are way more notable than just a penalty in a match, as they are way rarer. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:06, 16 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NOTSTATS, we don't need a list of every single penalty ever taken in the WC, it's not useful, encyclopedic content. This content would be suitable at a FIFA World Cup fandom site, but not here. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:06, 16 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:07, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - Nothing special about a penalty being awarded in a game, this is pure statcruft. – PeeJay 10:29, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Abstain I am neither for or against this article, it's perfectly valid content, WP:GNG can be constructed if one wants too. Certain penalties, will stick out over controversial decisions and such. Although WP:NOSTATS and WP:ROUTINE are issues, I really am not concerned as I feel there is validity to this list as a resource that can be used by said footy scholars who need that information. Regards. Govvy (talk) 10:30, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - NOTSTATS. GiantSnowman 13:26, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTSTATS. An awarded penalty is a somewhat common occurrence, so no need to include this on an encyclopedia.  Frank   Anchor  02:19, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - The awarded penalties are undue. Achmad Rachmani (talk) 11:05, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - I understand the essence of the article, but I don't think it needs to exist in Wikipedia. Sepguilherme (talk) 01:46, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment. It is a visually effective and arguably notable list. But I think it has completely the wrong name, which is a major part of the problem. It should have been "List of FIFA World Cup penalties taken" (or equivalent). The current name of the list ("awarded penalties") suggests it's a list of referee decisions, which sounds more routine and uninteresting. This list tells a different story. Cielquiparle (talk) 10:53, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Maybe list of "FIFA World Cup in-game penalties taken"? Or "FIFA World Cup awarded penalties taken"? Cielquiparle (talk) 10:59, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Red card per NOTSTATS. "Visually effective" (i.e. it looks pretty) is not a valid reason for retention. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:39, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Agree, it isn't, and wasn't intended as a justification. Cielquiparle (talk) 11:56, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Each individual instance of these is such a massive event that putting them together does cross the threshold of "this should be here" for me. Ab e g92 contribs 22:45, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


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