Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Finnish comedians


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. The main argument for deletion is that it is indiscriminate and no better than a category; the main argument for keeping is that the list is a manageable and reasonable group of notable people. Neither of the arguments is significantly stronger than the other, thus the result. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 19:30, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

List of Finnish comedians

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An infinite list, better as a category. Doc Quintana (talk) 07:20, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Per WP:BEFORE#8 - ..."and, for list articles, WP:CLN." Lists go hand-in-hand with categories. Categories cannot contain redlinks to articles that can be created in the future. To say the list is infinite, is not true, as it is for notable Finnish comedians. Also this page seems to be of a larger scheme. Looking in the parent cat of Category:Lists of comedians shows articles for List of Australian comedians, List of Dutch comedians, etc, etc.  Lugnuts  (talk) 08:57, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. A perfectly reasonable topic for a list.--Michig (talk) 13:50, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Clearly defined list, size is no issue. Red links are another matter (WP:WTAF, it's better to have a sourced stub than nothing, to distinguish real from vanity or fake entries) but that's an editing concern, not deletion concern.--70.80.234.196 (talk) 16:05, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete About the worst insult that I can think of for a list is that it's no better than a category, and this fits. Unsourced, indiscriminate, uninformative-- this is nothing more than a list of names: Eemeli-setä Viktor Kalborrek Vesa-Matti Loiri Esa Pakarinen, Jr Esa Pakarinen, Sr Spede Pasanen Pirkka-Pekka Petelius Krisse Salminen Simo Salminen Pentti Siimes Ritva Valkama André Wickström of which some have articles (and thus are in a category) and others are just tossed on there in hopes that someone will write an equally unsourced and uninformative article that says "Viktor Kalborrek is a Finnish comedian, this is a stub, you can help Wikipedia".  The list gives no clue as to whether any of these persons are notable even within Finland, or even if they're considered comedians, and it's essentially an invitation to throw in the name of every Teuva, Donner and Hendrik a person can think of.  If I want an alphabetized list of Wikipedia articles about Finnish comedians, it's been done.  Mandsford (talk) 16:23, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep WP:CLN; no compelling rationale to delete. The list could possibly become infinite and crufty, but that problem can be addressed by implementing better standards for what gets included in the list. Townlake (talk) 18:13, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:33, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. If Mandsford took the time to even google some of the names on this list, it would've been evident that these people actually are the best in Finnish comedy. -Yupik (talk) 05:39, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.