Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Florida universities by admission rates


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The result was   merge to List of colleges and universities in Florida. Courcelles 22:57, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

List of Florida universities by admission rates
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A useless, contextless list. This is a non-notable subject, and synthesis was used to put it together. No sources cover the subject of comparing "Florida universities by admission rates". Getting this information from the cited source requires a totally DIY approach: filtering data on U.S. colleges and universities down to Florida, and then sorting it yourself. The current WP list doesn't even include all the schools in the source, which includes some (but not all) community colleges and some for-profit schools, so a lot of the data is edited out arbitrarily. The list appears to have been put together with an element of boosterism for Florida International University, which is billed as the "most selective university in Florida" in its article. As I said on the talk page these problems aren't fixable by editing or merging. Cúchullain t/ c 16:02, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 16:39, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 16:39, 17 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Merge with List of colleges and universities in Florida. The reasoning being, despite all the valid criticism above, it is a useful summary that students, parents, and teachers, are interested in (many of whom contribute to Wikipedia).  Nipson anomhmata   (Talk) 00:35, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * If they were so interested in it you'd think sources outside Wikipedia would have a list like this. But they don't.--Cúchullain t/ c 12:47, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The State University System of Florida actually provides a list of Florida universities based upon "Admission and Registration Headcounts" here. --Nemesis63 (talk) 18:02, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * First, that's not a list, it's a table, you still have to sort the data yourself. Second, it doesn't compare state universities to private schools. Third, it has totally different numbers that contradict the numbers given in this list. This list is truly unsalvageable.--Cúchullain t/ c 20:02, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with List of colleges and universities in Florida, as suggested above. I believe that the some of the criticisms need to be addressed, but facts are stubborn things; FIU is the most selective university in the state based upon admissions numbers. The numbers are taken from a reputable source, and you suggest that "community colleges" are not fully integrated, yet the article was originally intended to be made of "universities" (hence "List of Florida universities by admission rates"). --Nemesis63 (talk) 03:04, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Most of the individual articles already contain their admission rate, so no information is being lost. Merging with list of colleges and universities in Florida, which is just a plain list, is a bad idea. It would be adding one bald statistic to some of the entries with no context. The list doesn't include more important figures like the size of the university, freshman enrollment, tuition, number of faculty, etc, it shouldn't include this either. And as I say excluding some schools but keeping others is an arbitrary limiting of the data (ie, original research).--Cúchullain t/ c 12:47, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  —• Gene93k (talk) 14:02, 18 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment Cuchullain, I think you make a great point. I believe that if we added that information (enrollment, tuition, faculty, admissions, etc.) to the List of colleges and universities in Florida it would add much more substance to that article. --Nemesis63 (talk) 17:50, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Expanding that list is a discussion to have at its talk page.--Cúchullain t/ c 20:02, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
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