Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of French Black people


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the nomination was delete. Proto /// type  12:53, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

List of French Black people
Quote from the article: This article will be about the very large impact that black culture has in France. Excuse me, what is "black culture"? Second, this entry does not really pertain to culture in any way, except in listing personalities known from culture. This will be an extremely large database, eventually having thousands of black French personalties in the politics, military, music, cinema, fashion, sports and arts of France. Oh my. This better be stopped it before it grows "extremely large", since it is an indiscriminate collection of information, grouping together random and unassociated individuals by skin colour. Lists shouldn't contain loosely associated topics. On a side note, the page is a mess and has been tagged for cleanup since July 2005 (actually it's a pity it wasn't deleted when it was new and under the name "Black france" (!)). Punkmorten 15:42, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Of course, the nomination also includes the sub-lists List of French Black people in sport and List of French Black people (music). Punkmorten 15:42, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, any such list is unwieldly, unmaintainable and WP:NOT an indiscriminate collection etc etc . Fiddle Faddle 15:45, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete These people have nothing in common except fulfilling two very broad criteria --IslaySolomon 16:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, if a case can be made that the entire complex of Lists of (blank) Americans (accessible via Template:Americans) should be deleted, then I might see the point. There seems to be an argument for more than just indiscriminate collection (ie, "Excuse me, what is 'black culture'?") in this AFD, if so, I suggest the nom should keep outside racial politics outside of this and stick to WP policies. hateless 17:02, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, it shows that the list is pointless because: It exists with the purpose of showing the impact of a certain culture in France by listing a number of unassociated people who have accomplished things in different fields. The entry does not explain in what way the subjects are linked to culture in France. In fact, as I think about this, I consider it to be original research. Punkmorten 20:42, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. An indiscriminate and generalized POV collection of largely unassociated people. And, per nom. Grand  master  ka  05:13, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep: but trim and reformat. I think this is a useful article with some pleasantly surprising facts, but there are far too many names. By the way, I don't understand how being black is POV. --die Baumfabrik 00:53, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.