Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Gaelic football clubs


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was no consensus. Mailer Diablo 16:22, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

List of Gaelic football clubs
Every town in ireland has a GAA Club, this list is basicly a list of towns of Ireland. Most of the links dont go too GAA clubs or information that is relevant. I speedy deleted but contributors raised a fuss, so I nominated. Gator (talk) 13:35, 28 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete pernom.Gator (talk) 13:35, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Move: Not every town in Ireland has a GAA club, its not spread out that simply, even clubs not in Ireland! (The GAA across Ireland and the World). Take Cork for example. Yes there are a few Town Name GAA Club's, but there is also more like: Na Piarsaigh and St. Vincents. The page would be good to list all the clubs (not just football, GAA clubs in general). Maybe move it to List of GAA clubs. -Ablaze 14:17, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Move Agree with last comment. This is not a list of towns of Ireland and not every town in Ireland has a GAA club and some have more than one. It is a, granted incomplete and messy, list of GAA clubs and has potential. Move it to List of GAA clubsKaptKos 14:22, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, redundant with Category:Gaelic Athletic Association clubs and its subcategories. Angr (talk • contribs) 14:51, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, listcruft. --Ter e nce Ong 15:05, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep perhaps with rename as per KaptKos. The categories have no red links. ReeseM 23:04, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * All the more reason to delete the list. Angr (talk • contribs) 06:08, 29 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep. Seems OK, maybe needs more details about the clubs. Also, I can't see how this could possibly be considered a speedy. -- JJay 23:56, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep but change all the links so they link to the club even if that is a red link (Gnevin 18:17, 29 March 2006 (UTC))
 * Keep and clean up if necessary. So what if theres a category, all the more reason to have a list to go with it. Jcuk 00:39, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * keep Its maturing as we debate, links are being added, hurling only clubs are being deleted. It is not simply a list of towns in Ireland. Some city clubs have little to do with geography, alot of parishes have no teams, some parishes have teams with a name not the same as the parish itself and some places have joined with other areas to create a team. This is not a list of towns in Ireland. It will make a good list ...at least if i have anything to do with it :)Eleutherius 17:39, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep and maintain. As Eleutherius says, the list is evolving, and the more information that is added, the better. Eleutherius, DarranC and KaptKos have explained that GAA clubs do not necessarily map 1:1 onto towns or parishes. A couple of other points: 1) In some parts of Ireland, only one of Gaelic football or hurling is played, and in some areas there will be separate clubs for the two games, but many GAA clubs will have both Gaelic football and hurling sections within the same club. I think there is an argument either for changing the name to List of GAA Clubs, indicating if necessary whether a particular club is hurling or football-only or dual, or alternatively for setting up a separate List of Hurling Clubs. 2) As far as links go, where the club is notable enough in its own right to merit a Wikipedia entry (e.g. Crossmaglen Rangers, Na Fianna CLG) then the link is straightforward. If the club doesn't have an article of its own, I see no harm in placing the link to the geographical area (parish, town, suburb) where it's located, especially if there's no club website currently available to be linked to (e.g. in the Leitrim listing, clubs like Allen Gaels (Drumshanbo) or Seán O'Heslins (Ballinamore) are associated with particular towns or villages but those aren't indicated by the club names). 3) There are a set of articles for county GAA structures, e.g. Longford GAA. Links could be included to them from the county headings. (One long-term solution might be to move the county lists to the respective county GAA articles, but it's a decision that we could come to a consensus about at a later stage - but the list should not be deleted.) PaddyMatthews 00:34, 01 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete GAA suggests that this list, if completed, would be over 3,000 items long, far too broad for one single list as described in Lists_%28stand-alone_lists%29. While some lists are useful, this seems to be a classic example of what Wikipedia is not. I don't think it's possible to say that a football club is famous just because it's a football club. MartinRe 15:05, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
 * comment List of football clubs in England is a pretty long list. Surely its similar to that. -Ablaze (talk) 19:43, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
 * comment The only reference on GAA says there are 2000 clubs in Ireland and 300 abroad.  Still a hell of a lot, I know, but I can't find any reference anywhere to there being 3000 clubs--KaptKos 13:44, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Offical GAA web site says "over 2,500 clubs in Ireland alone", can't find a reference for how many abroad. List of football clubs in England is long, but not near as long as this, possibly because it doesn't try to list all the clubs, just those in the higher level leagues. Also, because it is limited to those in well defined leagues, it's easily verifable that all the clubs are there, is that going to be possible here also? My memory of playing club football in Ireland was that it was often knockout based, rather than league, so teams could easily join and leave, be created/merge, different team name in the same parish depending on age group, etc. so there was never a well defined list of clubs for any area. It's the lack of well defined listings that make the two lists so different for me. MartinRe 14:33, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


 * keep No problem with it. FearÉIREANN [[Image:Map of Ireland's capitals.png|15px]]\(caint)  18:53, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
 * keep and maintain. Need lots of work but it is a list that could be useful. Conor 09:19, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


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