Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Gran Turismo cars (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  Marasmusine (talk) 09:48, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

List of Gran Turismo cars
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Pure WP:FANCRUFT, the "articles" are nothing more than a chart of cars and tracks available in various iterations of the game with no actual text or establishment of notability. We are not a game guide for video game players. A select number of notable cars or tracks can be mentioned on the games' main articles, but there is no reason to list every single item available to a player for any racing game. Article was previously deleted for the last version of the game over 5 years ago, same reasons apply now. The359 ( Talk ) 08:49, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 16:53, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:53, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, part of what has made the GT games notable is the number of cars available. The first game having 100 cars was it's selling point, and the 5th game having 1000 is just as groundbreaking today. Agreed that wikipedia is not a game guide, and that's why this is a list (ie no performance or price data, making it completely unusable as a game guide). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.18.220 (talk) 17:49, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment, then mention the number of cars in the game article. Why have a 200k page to tell people what they can read in one sentence?  The359  ( Talk ) 18:02, 29 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:FANCRUFT. This not an encyclopedic topic, nor are the specific makes of cars and games they are in notable outside of the game itself.  Ravendrop 22:42, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Nonsense. See Buffy the Vampire Slayer filming locations, or Characters of Peter Pan. Or Category:Indiana Jones music. All exactly the same. Furthermore, the specific cars that have (or have not been) included in the GT games is a subject of much debate and controversy both online and in print media. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.18.220 (talk) 22:57, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Per WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, the existance of equally inappropriate articles does not make this article kosher. Also, categories are not articles.  Further, your two example articles consist almost entirely of prose rather than a colorful chart.  they at least attempt to establish notability for such an article.  The359  ( Talk ) 04:03, 31 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - I can accept the statement that the number of cars is notable, but that doesn't provide notability to the entire list any more than we would have a list of all of Bobby Bonds's home runs (we do have 20 of the most important) or every veto by Franklin Roosevelt, though again we have a summary. Matchups 02:24, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - reluctantly so, tho. Every editor has those articles that they hope get overlooked; for me it's the courses article, I always knew I cars article would be a red flag due to file size alone. That being said, unfortunately they fail the criteria for inclusion, plain and simple. I'm semi-inclined to nominate Music of the Gran Turismo series, an article I created, however it can be saved (and probably trimmed) due to the critical reception of the albums and the fact that it centralizes several Gran Turismo albums in one article. I never got around to add sourcing to it, but it's out there. --Teancum (talk) 13:46, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - I spent way too much time putting this article together, and I can't come up with a good reason to keep it. I figured that since there is a list for Forza, a GT list is appropriate, but I can see it's not. heat_fan1 (talk) 12:03, 31 March 2011 (UTC)


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