Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Grand Theft Auto vehicles


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Jaranda wat's sup 02:59, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

List of Grand Theft Auto vehicles

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Speedy Delete Pure gamecruft. Listing GTA cars is not necessary, at all, in Wikipedia. Deserving only in a Wikia. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit me  §   Contributions ♣ 19:49, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Changed vote to "Speedy Delete." It's a list, in it's entirety. Not at all encyclopedic. ♣ Klptyzm  Chat wit me  §   Contributions ♣ 19:51, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment: Which speedy deletion criteria does it meet? I don't think it meets any, to be honest. J Milburn 19:56, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Does not meet Speedy criteria: Regardless of what personal beliefs you might have on the subject, neither Cruft nor Original Research is a reason for an article to be speedied. Indeed, Cruft itself is not a reason for deletion and should not be cited. I will say that this article should be Deleted (changed opinion, see below), but only because the list itself is inherently unencyclopedic and WP:NOT a game guide. The article provides no context for the subject matter at hand and asserts no notability about the vehicles in the GTA series. Cheers, Lankybugger 20:03, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, the only reason why I changed to speedy delete was on the basis of it consisting, almost, totally of lists. I do know cruft or OR is, by no means, speedy criteria. Also, I stated in my above comment that I changed to Speedy due to it being a list. ♣ Klptyzm  Chat wit me  §   Contributions ♣ 21:47, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:SPEEDY for more details, but Original Research and WP:NOT are specifically mentioned in the WP:SPEEDY page as non-criteria for speedy deletion. This list doesn't meet any of the General or Article items mentioned, so it doesn't meet WP:SPEEDY. Cheers, Lankybugger 14:02, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Maranomerau 03:44, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, not speedy. While Wikipedia is not intended as a game guide, the part of WP:NOT that specifically said that was removed, and wasn't restored when I suggested it.  WP:FICT includes some guidelines about excessive levels of detail about non-fact-based works; this list seems clearly to be of interest only to fans of the game, and does not serve to explain the game to non-fans.  Barno 20:58, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not GameFAQs. --- RockMFR 22:42, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Do Not Delete: It is not a game guide. It simply lists the models of vehicles in the GTA III trilogy and their respective real life counterparts. Does not tell you how or where to obtain them. It needs more categorizing, yes, not deletion. The purpose of the list was for the fans, and that includes potential future fans.
 * Like Rock said, Wikipedia is not GameFAQS. It's an encyclopedia. This belongs in a game guide, not here. Pure gamecruft. ♣ Klptyzm  Chat wit me  §   Contributions ♣ 03:50, 31 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete not only is this of no interest other than to a small group of fans, it's also probably original research, since the "real life look-alikes" are unsourced and the game does not actually say what the cars are. Guy (Help!) 10:55, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, per Articles for deletion/List of vehicles in Grand Theft Auto series Articles for deletion/List of vehicles in Grand Theft Auto series (2nd nomination). ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶  19:07, 31 January 2007 (UTC) ╫
 * Based on new evidence, Speedy Delete this article and then salt the earth here and at List of vehicles in Grand Theft Auto. Cruft and OR might not be a reason for Speedy Deletion, but material which has already gone through the AfD process IS speedy-able. Cheers, Lankybugger 20:13, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I didn't nominate it for speedy del. on OR and cruft; can no one read my comment I stated about that??? ♣ Klptyzm  Chat wit' me  §   Contributions ♣ 21:53, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Doesn't matter. Simply being a list is not a reason for Speedy deletion, either. It needs to explicitly fit the criteria mentioned in WP:SPEEDY for it to be considered for speedy deletion, and even cases which clearly fit one of the criteria but are also highly controversial subjects will go through AfD. Cheers, Lankybugger 06:03, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Maranomerau 08:53, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Would you people quit bickering and just Delete the page already. I already cleared all the info, just stick a fork in it. I declare victory to the deletists.


 * We aren't "bickering." This is exactly what's supposed to be done in a AfD discussion: discussion. ♣ Klptyzm  Chat wit' me  §   Contributions ♣ 17:00, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. *sigh*...I really, really want this list to stay, since it's nice to know what you're driving and stuff in the game. I wanted this list so badly when I owned this game. But, well...unsourced, OR, recreation of previously deleted material...Oh well, Wikipedia is not a place to see your wishes and come true (someone ought to write that essay).  --UsaSatsui 18:28, 2 February 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.