Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Gurjar clans


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:46, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

List of Gurjar clans

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Original research, nothing in reliable sources to show the existence of these clans, let alone that they belong to the Gurjars. Many of the blue links go to unrelated topics such as a town in Israel or a genus of butterflies and so on. While some entries like Jat are blatantly wrong and other entries like Patel or Gola contradict the respective articles. Delete&mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  06:14, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 20:07, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete fails WP:GNG.Stuartyeates (talk) 03:00, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:04, 17 October 2011 (UTC)




 * Keep - Functional as a WP:SETINDEX article, about groups that share a similar name, at least categorically. Northamerica1000 (talk) 02:42, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 00:59, 24 October 2011 (UTC)




 * Delete - Fails WP:GNG per WP:LISTN. - SudoGhost 01:50, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:SETINDEX as stated by Northamerica1000. Mar4d (talk) 02:41, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete OR mess. -- Ja Ga  talk 04:25, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 00:22, 1 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment: ...I don't suppose there's any chance of getting some arguments that aren't WP:JUSTAPOLICY? - The Bushranger One ping only 00:22, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * comment&mdash;who can resist an invitation like that? it seems to me that this meets WP:LISTN because gurjar clans are discussed at length in the following reliable source, and thus probably qualify as a grouping that is notable qua grouping:
 * the issue is complicated by the fact that every other source i could find seems to be autogenerated from wikipedia, sometimes even without proper licensing or attribution. it's that fact that's stopping me from saying keep right now, but maybe i will later.&mdash; alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 01:35, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * the issue is complicated by the fact that every other source i could find seems to be autogenerated from wikipedia, sometimes even without proper licensing or attribution. it's that fact that's stopping me from saying keep right now, but maybe i will later.&mdash; alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 01:35, 1 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment OK, let's see - unsourced, poorly constructed (links to butterflies and Israeli towns?), and contains some definitely inaccurate material. If someone wants to rehabilitate this article, fine, but otherwise it's a blight to the wiki. It would be better to delete - there's simply nothing worth saving. -- Ja Ga  talk 03:44, 3 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment - The link provided above by user:Alf.laylah.wa.laylah seems to disprove the nomination to delete as original research:
 * • Atmore, Matthew S. (1872). Hindu Tribes and Castes. Thacker, Spink & Co. (et al.)
 * Matters regarding fixing links, etc. can be done by improving the article, not deleting it. — Northamerica1000 (talk) 11:49, 7 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep Is there a Wikiproject that could be contacted to find people who are knowledgeable about this? Gurjar has different spellings, and of course most coverage on them would be in a language other than English.  This article was created in May of 2006‎, by an editor no longer active on Wikipedia, so I can't asks them where the original sources were at.  To confirm the information is valid, we'd have to find someone who spoke one of the three languages these people speak, and search for sources of them, they sure to have coverage in books listing this information.  Does anyone believe that this article might be some sort of hoax?  A list of all clans of an ethic group is clearly encyclopedic.   D r e a m Focus  19:20, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
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