Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Hanafis


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) clpo13(talk) 17:15, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

List of Hanafis

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Total OR and POV. no scholarly sources give "lists of hanafis". People are not put into lists according to their religion the last time I checked. Yes there can be lists of Hanafi authors or Hanafi clergy, if sources are found for that, but a list of hanafis? no please. We are not in nazi germany. FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 07:13, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. Lists on Wikipedia are primarily navigational aids - we do not require that the list itself is notable, though we do require that the subject of the list (Hanafi, in this case) is notable and, for most lists of people, that the people listed are notable and that they verifiably meet the criterion for being on the list - the sourcing for that does not have to be given in the list, provided it is given in the articles on the listed people. I have checked several of the articles, and in each case the article identifies them, giving reliable sources, as a Hanafi lawyer or legal theorist. The list could possibly do with some checking (there are a couple of redlinks and, despite what it says at the top, not all the entries are currently in chronological order), but that is a matter for normal editing, not deletion. PWilkinson (talk) 21:17, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sam Sailor Talk! 03:06, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. Sam Sailor Talk! 03:07, 28 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NOTDIRECTORY. This is one of those instances where a category is more appropriate. A Hanafi can be anyone of 500 million followers (= a third of the Muslim population according to Hanafi) of that school. A "list of Hanafis" is just too vague, may include pretty much any Muslim from Turkey/Levant/Egypt and Central Asia, and is a perfect example of point 6 of WP:DOAL: Some topics (e.g. a list of all people from a particular country who have Wikipedia articles) are so broad that a list would be unmanageably long and effectively unmaintainable. - HyperGaruda (talk) 06:57, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Revoking vote per Articles for deletion/List of Shia Muslims (2nd nomination). (Too extensive Wikipedia-wide "issue") - HyperGaruda (talk) 07:49, 30 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Merge to Hanafi. Saff V. (talk) 13:02, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - lists should not replace categories. Perhaps add a "Hanafi scholar" category to each entry, though. kashmiri  TALK  22:19, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Revoking my previous !vote. The majority arguments here are quite convining. kashmiri  TALK  12:29, 5 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep we have dozens of other lists on Wikipedia such as List of Jews and List of Ahmadis. Should they be deleted aswell?
 * Keep, categories should not replace lists, per WP:CLN. It seems to be a defining characteristic of Islamic scholarship. People whose notability is unrelated to the topic don't belong on this list. Annotation would make it much more valuable, of course. Siuenti (talk) 17:59, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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 * Keep - yes, other people are listed by their religion. —Мандичка YO 😜 09:59, 5 December 2015 (UTC)


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