Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Hindi songs recorded by Vani Jairam


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Less Unless (talk) 18:57, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

List of Hindi songs recorded by Vani Jairam

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Fails WP:NLIST. Note that WP:NOTDATABASE applies. Few, if any, tracks pass WP:NMUSIC. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 23:18, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs, Lists,  and India.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 23:38, 23 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails WP:NLIST. Songs have been copied from sites similar to discogs and the only 2 songs out of several hundred have articles. No effective sources. Fails WP:SIGCOV.    scope_creep Talk  00:59, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - a notable list. There's no way you can delete this list and want other ones kept. Systemic bias on WP against India-related articles must be addressed. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  11:56, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:ITSNOTABLE. Beyond that, what is your evidence for such a claim. As is, you're just castibg aspersions, which is not allowed. Maybe there is truth to your statement, but how you're approaching it is inappropriate to handling this AFD. Sergecross73   msg me  16:36, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - the listing is nowhere an "indiscriminate collection of information". Could only be relevant if WP decided that no list of recorded songs could have a place here. Similar articles do exist with even poorer sourcing. Otherwise it just needs expansion and proper sourcing, not deletion. Most of the films already have enough references and the songs may be traced upon searching on the web. Abbasulu (talk) 11:20, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Pretty bad WP:OSE argument. The Beatles, for example, have a million different sources directly discussing their catalog. I'm not seeing anything here. Why? I Ask (talk) 16:32, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment - indeed, my vote above should have included more detailing backed up by policy to support my keep. As for my other point about systemic bias, I totally stand behind it and would still maintain it exists on Wikipedia in relation to India-related articles, and this article as the other, similar lists, is just one example. Let this be clear - it is directed at no one in particular. My comment is a general observation, and is nowhere an accusation/aspersion (as suggested above) against the current nominator, who I'm sure means well and is not at all to be blamed. It is a bigger problem which needs to be addressed, that's what I meant, and I'm happy to clarify it here. It is based on the large amount of AfDs related to Indian cinema or India in general (and was even noted recently by a closing admin on a recent film AfD). As for this page, it is not a database, it is a list, a legitimate one, which needs sourcing, just like every list of recorded songs by other singers. I suggest that we start a project of sourcing them all instead of deleting a page which so much time and effort have been put into. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  15:24, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
 * None of the songs have articles, they are completely generic and none of the songs have references. The whole article has no effective references.   scope_creep Talk  22:18, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:38, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:NLIST, WP:SIGCOV, and WP:VERIFY. Onel 5969  TT me 21:16, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Vani Jairam. Fails WP:NLIST per nom. Part of the list can be covered there. SBKSPP (talk) 01:24, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep - I've checked the database. She has sung 329 songs and earned Filmfare Award for one of them. This article might be improved, not deleted. I agree with Shahid's reasoning. Valiaveetil (talk) 07:29, 4 February 2023 (UTC) Strike sock.  Onel 5969  TT me 20:41, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:NLIST. No sources discuss this subject in particular. – Pbrks (t • c) 15:32, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete this non-encyclopaedic cross-categorisation that also fails WP:V Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:40, 6 February 2023 (UTC)


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