Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Hiroshi Agasa's inventions


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Gwen Gale (talk) 16:43, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

List of Hiroshi Agasa's inventions
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Fails WP:FICT. A list of the various inventions created during the series is not notable and the topic has not received significant coverage in third party sources. Additionally, this list is primarily plot summary, with the use/appearance of these inventions already covered better and more appropriately by the List of Case Closed chapters and various seasonal pages linked to from List of Case Closed episodes. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 06:51, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep: This list is needed and can be fixed by adding existing 3rd party sources to it. It does not fail WP:FICT. The inventions are NOT covered anywhere else and all link to this well needed page. It is not covered anywhere else on wikipedia, and defently not covered  in the chapters "better" either. This page holds a lot of useful date and deleting it would not help improve wikipedia.- Prede (talk) 07:01, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment:I originally made this page due to the heavy overlapping of such material in Jimmy Kudo and Hiroshi Agasa. -- Samuel di  Curtisi  di  Salvadori  14:39, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Suggestion why not try and improve this page rather then just delete it all together? It is defently possible to improve this page. I do not support it's deletion. - Prede (talk) 18:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions.  -- --  Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 06:52, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 13:17, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge or weak delete: as it is, the article has way too many images, and most of the invention descriptions could probably quite easily be pared down to just one or two sentences and then merged with the appropriate character, episode, or chapter descriptions. — Dino guy  1000  19:51, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * merged with the appropriate character, episode, or chapter descriptions' Most of these things are used throughout the series, so I don't see any episode or chapter descriptions that can "monopolize" the description. As for character is concerned, of course it can be completely moved to Hiroshi Agasa, but the overlap with the user (especially Conan Edogawa is too much to ignore. As mentioned, I made this page simply because both pages had a laundry list of these things, and I couldn't come out where should those fall into.-- Samuel di  Curtisi  di  Salvadori  20:20, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That is exaclty why the page is "good as it is". There is no reason for deletion. If the pictures are a "problem" they could easily be removed, with little hassle, although I find they only add to the article. I see nothing negative about them being there. But if others feel differently, then we could deal with that, when it is time. - Prede (talk) 22:21, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.   -- Fabrictramp (talk) 15:55, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - no assertion of notability. The material in this article would be better covered by the relevant character articles; otherwise, this article fails WP:FICT. Sephiroth BCR  ( Converse ) 22:18, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - It is notable because these inventions are used in a majority of the episodes. Without an explination, the other articles on the series will not make sense. Can not just be covered in character articles because it has to do with 2 main characters, not just one. - Prede (talk) 02:40, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No, it is not notable. Articles assert notability through non-trivial coverage of the subject in reliable verifiable sources independent of the topic. This doesn't. And yes, the articles will make sense if written correctly and the material is merged properly. Just merge the inventions to the relevant character and summarize well. It's not that difficult. Sephiroth BCR  ( Converse ) 03:10, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Or maybe we should discuss for now where should the content to be merge into. Merging itself is not technically difficult; the problem is how to deal with overlapping information.-- Samuel di  Curtisi  di  Salvadori  13:52, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thus the reason the page was made in the first place, it overlaps artilces. The list of inventions, fits nicely where it is. This page is in no way a "Trivia Section" and there are plenty of third party sources to use to fix up the page. However I don't want to seach for them, fix up the page, and have you guys delete it afterwards :( - Prede (talk) 02:08, 30 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge to Hiroshi Agasa - most of these inventions are not notable outside of the series, but I think they would sit well in an article on the character themselves. Lankiveil (speak to me) 03:53, 1 June 2008 (UTC).


 * Merge to Hiroshi Agasa; these are his inventions, after all. Conan's article can just point readers to the section in Agasa's article.--Nohansen (talk) 04:51, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


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