Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Hockey Night In Canada commentators for 2011–12 NHL season


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The result was   Delete. The Bushranger One ping only 00:53, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

List of Hockey Night In Canada commentators for 2011–12 NHL season

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Unencylcopedic WP:LISTCRUFT, this is of interest to only a limited audience. Runs against WP:NOTDIRECTORY #8 and WP:WHIM #3. Prod disputed.  PK T (alk)  14:08, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
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Delete Per nom. Patken4 (talk) 15:22, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment "Cruft"? "Delete per nom"? I'm starting to have flashbacks to 2007. ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ Speak 16:18, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, yes, per nom. We already have List of Hockey Night in Canada commentators, that I think is of dubious value as a separate list from Hockey Night in Canada.  To drill down to who was the commentator of each individual game is beyond excessive, and completely unencyclopedic.   PKT - you might wish to add List of Hockey Night in Canada commentators for 2010–11 NHL season to this nom.  Otherwise, one of us might as well AfD it separately. Resolute 16:35, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing out the other list for the previous season, Resolute. I think a separate AfD is proper for the other article - it doesn't seem proper to piggyback a second article into an existing AfD.   PK  T (alk)  18:54, 26 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I disagree with the nomination as WP:LISTCRUFT is not a policy, WP:NOTDIR #8 - "A complete exposition of all possible details." - doesn't apply as the lists are very specific and WP:WHIM #3 - "Long and sprawling lists of statistics" doesn't apply as the lists are short and specific. However, my feeling is Delete as failing to meet WP:GNG - I highly doubt there are multiple secondary sources that specifically discuss the commentary personnel for each match. I've no doubt it can be proved who commentated but that would almost certainly be in the form of a trivial mention. ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ Speak 16:52, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ironically for all the things you lecture about in this comment...you actually get it wrong in that not all items in a list have to be notable.... -DJSasso (talk) 18:22, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete: Hopeless failure of the GNG; exactly where is this 2011-12 list discussed distinct from that of any other season in the eighty-year lifespan of this show?  Ravenswing  01:21, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, per the nominator's reasons. GoodDay (talk) 14:59, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete The nominator nailed it right on the head. Whether or not list cruft is a policy, it is a good explanation of why this is a bad article. -DJSasso (talk) 18:22, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
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