Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Home and Away characters


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   nomination withdrawn. – anemone projectors – 00:25, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

List of Home and Away characters

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This is a list of characters that is not needed. All characters are either mentioned in the lists List of past Home and Away characters and List of current Home and Away characters. All info is also unsourced. A wide selection of the mentioned also have their own article in any case. It's verging on the lines of 'Fancruft'. ..  RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 20:16, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * You nominated and  for deletion on the grounds that this article existed.  Where are you going to stop, exactly?  Uncle G (talk) 20:51, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  -- Reaper Eternal (talk) 21:54, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment There's one more after this, what programme needs 9 character lists saying the same thing? The remaining four will make the soap opera in line with all of the others. You may have noticed there are three soap opera editors working all of their free time to push Home and Away articles to their potential, because they've been recreated and deleted many times when alls that was needed was someone to add the out of universe info to them... we're doing that. So aside from noticing than the AFD's I've done, you might notice the masses of info and references I've been pumping into these articles. So rest assured I'm not trying to rid of everything to do with this soap opera, just on the clean up of a very neglected area of wikipedia. RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 23:03, 19 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:28, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:29, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge - Perhaps a merger of all the pages into one would be better? Mathewignash (talk) 02:31, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: Well, I think the bigger issue is that someone just deleted a huge chunk of information from List of past Home and Away characters to turn it into a shorter version of this one. Yes, I know, unsourced, blah blah. But the fact it was done instead of people finding sources, which wouldn't have been hard to do, and that a lot of those characters still don't have pages, despite what's been said above, does make it seem like a kind of snobbery. If there is a plan to make pages for every character, and I mean every character, not just the current one, then disregard this comment. But at the moment it seems like throwing the baby out with the bath water. Skteosk (talk) 17:07, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: But if that is the case and the past characters list is going to be stripped down to a simple table, then frankly I'd delete that and the current characters list and just keep this one. It makes more sense than splitting the information in half. Skteosk (talk) 17:14, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - Take into consideration that Skteosk is all for articles without sources, in this users opinion non notable character articles for Home and Away should stay without sources. In the answer to you're question, were on a roll making articles where there is enough sources. Constantly goes agaisnt any suggestion of improving home and away, in the past we've kept these lists for you, see past discussions, this time however it's best to follow the guidelines. Let's have the basic lists past, present and recurring just like Neighbours, Hollyoaks, Eastenders and so on...  RAIN*the*ONE  BAM 23:52, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I might be completely wrong on this, but I always assumed that, for instance, List of EastEnders characters and List of past EastEnders characters or List of Coronation Street characters and List of past Coronation Street characters were forked for length reasons. As the H&A lists are comparatively short, mightn't it be better just to have List of Home and Away characters over the other two, especially as there'll always be recentism issues with a title containing the word 'current'? Frickative  00:25, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * So does everyone want this to be the new one? Quick mock up ... RAIN*the*ONE  BAM 01:25, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I forgot to watchlist this page so I only just caught your reply! The mock-up looks good to me. I know there's some debate at MOS:TV about even splitting up into current/past within single lists, but there's no hard and fast rule about it as yet, and I tend to agree that for soap operas where the majority of characters are "past" then it makes sense while it's still on air. So yes, my recommendation would be to carry out the merge and redirect the current/past lists :) Frickative  13:58, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Personal comments aside, I don't see why it even needs to be changed. The present characters/past characters/I heard this character is coming back so I thought I'd mention it on here split seems a bit pointless, you can tell from the dates who's still there and who isn't and you don't have to look in three different places. (And if you're going to include "current recurring" characters on here, that opens the door to a whole load of past recurring characters being added.) Skteosk (talk) 15:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

So if it cannot be decided after this then the idea is to go with the seemingly favoured redirect to the current list. RAIN*the*ONE  BAM 23:04, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * At the risk of repeating myself, why not just redirect the current and past lists to here? Having it in two different places doesn't make any sense to me. Plus if you delete/redirect this you lose the information on past actors for current characters, unless you're going to add them to the current list. Skteosk (talk) 09:20, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 20:57, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Keep delete the other two lists. There's no point in having two list articles where one will do. 184.144.169.126 (talk) 06:07, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep this list, merge others into it appropriately. Jclemens (talk) 23:51, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - I've decided to keep it. But that's up to you guys to merge/redirect the three. RAIN*the*ONE  BAM 00:03, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Would that mean you withdraw your nomination? – anemone projectors – 00:21, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Totally 100 percent. At the end of the day it will be down to me or Junegloom to make the changes, I feel we have enough to keep us occupied for now. RAIN*the*ONE  BAM 00:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.