Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Homer Simpson's jobs (2nd nomination)


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The result was  k eep. - Mailer Diablo 04:57, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

List of Homer Simpson's jobs (2nd nomination)

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This falls under What_Wikipedia_is_not in my opinion. It's a fan list that isn't very notable to people other than Simpsons fans, and its very trivial. Lots of one time things happen in shows (the Simpsons especially), I dont see a need for them all here. What's next: things Lisa complains about? jobs held by Bart? Things Maggie has played with? All happen on a frequent basis (maybe a little less, but it's a comparision, to show there is many repeating themes that could be collected in useless lists). Previous AFD was no consensus: Articles for deletion/List of Homer Simpson's jobs. RobJ1981 07:30, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge into Homer Simpson. Crotalus horridus (TALK • CONTRIBS) 08:11, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable enough. Dalejenkins 08:17, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep- too much information to merge into the main Homer Simpson article. I can see why it may be seen as trivial, but are the jobs of Homer Simpson not a notable theme in most Simspon storylines? Thunderwing 08:23, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * According to whom? Wikipedia? Are there multiple independent sources which make the claim that this is a notable theme in most Simpson's storylines? Original research seems to be a big problem here. --- RockMFR 00:49, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete Should be on a fansite, not Wikipedia. Important information can be merge into the main article. Poeloq 08:50, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Homer's jobs have directly been the subject of self-parody on the show, it's a notable aspect of Homer's character. Not a random list. Wl219 09:17, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - significant plot element and significant part of the character. Would unbalance the character's article if included. Otto4711 13:46, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. I am pretty sure that this article will be kept again and I'm gonna be in the minority here but I agree with the nominator and Poeloq that this information isn't exactly encyclopedic.  Otto4711 makes a good point that Homer's taking of a new job (albeit temporary) often serves as an important plot point in Simpsons' episodes, I am just not convinced that "important plot elements" are material worth keeping in a general knowledgebase - they are more suited to fansites.   A r k y a n  &#149; (talk) 15:31, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per Otto4711. - Peregrine Fisher 17:36, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - Part of a larger topic. Homer's jobs are significant episode plot points. Wikipedia is also not paper, so I see no reason to exclude this very encyclopaedic list. Matthew 18:48, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, but someone needs to sort out the "count as of now" at the top of the page. Lugnuts 19:39, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep encyclopedic and must remain forked. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 19:49, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per excellent points made by the others. Volunteer Sibelius Salesman 19:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep as a list that adds context and elaboration to Wikipedia's coverage of an important fictional character in American (and, frankly world) popular culture.  young  american  (ahoy hoy) 20:30, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per the other keeps. Acalamari 22:37, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per youngamerican. Plinth molecular gathered 23:27, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Complete lack of any sources whose subject is "Homer Simpson's jobs". Fails every notability guideline. I will be very disappointed if this ends in a head count. --- RockMFR 00:46, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep as a non-arbitrary and well-annotated list.-- danntm T C 02:45, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Important and well-annotated list, though it needs more paragraphs, easily obtained by citing the large volume of Simpsons scholarship readily available. Cromulent Kwyjibo 16:22, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong keep Per all the above. - Denny 17:46, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Homer Simpson is an important icon of American mythology and some of his one-episode jobs practically have the status of folk fables. Del arte 18:57, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Ideally, I would merge this to the character; but, in this case, length is a prohibitive concern.  Sufficiently encyclopedic, considering the character's iconic status, as supported by the sources in his article.  Sourcing concerns for the list are reasonable, but presumably easy to cure, given the number of Simpsons reference books published by the show's staff. Xoloz 15:13, 6 April 2007 (UTC)


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