Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Honolulu Police Department officers killed in the line of duty (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Tone 15:51, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

List of Honolulu Police Department officers killed in the line of duty
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The reasons for deletion outlined at Articles for deletion/List of Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department officers killed in the line of duty apply equally to this article: Wikipedia is not a memorial site, and this is a non-encyclopaedic cross-categorisation that fails WP:LISTN. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 12:35, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 12:35, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
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 * Keep this is a list of people so the relevant guideline to pass is WP:NLIST. Lists which provide navigation or information are usually kept. This list provides information. The death of a police officer is dramatic yet the officer may not merit an individual article, so the list is an appropriate placement. Additionally the fact that another list of Sherifs was deleted does not mean this list should be deleted - we may find a new WP:LOCALCONSENSUS. Lightburst (talk) 14:32, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTMEMORIAL and WP:NOTDIR. Ajf773 (talk) 10:02, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete (plus delete the other "List of community XYZ officers killed in the line of duty" articles). Besides the reasons mentioned above, this article is but one of the many "deaths when law enforcement is involved" articles. In fact we have two broad types of articles: 1. "killed in the line of duty" (see: List of law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty in the United States) and 2. "killing of XYZ at the hands of law enforcement" (see: List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States, December 2012). But in the non-WP real world we have many different types of killing. Or I should say we have many different causes of death. Our WP editing problem is that using the term "killing" (or "killed") is inherently POV. Deleting this article is one step towards a needed NPOV cleanup. – S. Rich (talk) 23:22, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete We can't list non-notable people who die just because they have a dangerous job. Imagine if we had List of United States Marine Corps personnel killed in the line of duty during World War II or something, ridiculous.★Trekker (talk) 08:48, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete We have a consolidated list for all LEOs killed, and they come from thousands of police and sheriff departments; it is not reasonable to split this out for every city. Reywas92Talk 22:15, 22 September 2020 (UTC)


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